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Old 06-27-2008, 07:29 AM
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Default What I hear you saying is...

That the engine fires every 120 deg. but the crank speed signal has designed in uneven pulse widths due to the "tooth spacing" on the flywheel. Is this even close to correct?
Old 06-27-2008, 09:32 AM
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(crazycab, my last 3 posts were an attempt at dry humour) ;-)
Old 06-27-2008, 10:05 AM
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Default The crank speed signal is fine, it's the reference signal that's gibbled

but since the engine speed is measured off the starter gear there are no missing teeth. Therefore the reference sensor tells the ecu what position the crank is in (acts as the missing teeth in a normal setup).

Of course all of this ignores the Hall sensor.
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Default as i understand it

The gap in the counter weight gives accurate tdc info to the ecm. Then the ecm uses the engine speed sensor to count the flywheel teeth to time the other firing events (injection, spark).
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Default ok then, so why do you not go buy a chip for your even fire V6...common do it!!!

then post here and tell us how it worked/did not work.

so giver, there are zillion's of chips for even fire, smack one in there.

my money is on it not working.
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Default Chief did you read my post below re: humour? :-)

The 12v is an even-fire V6 with proprietary crank ECM signaling.
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You're wrong and all of a sudden it's a joke. Funny.
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Default no, lets let him think he is right..... so go get a chip man!

common prove you are right!

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Old 06-28-2008, 10:24 AM
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Default what the hell is the big deal about chips?

Does 034 not make a chip for the 12v now?
Yes it is obvious that there is an 'odd'crank reference signal used by the MMS 200/300 ecu.
It is obvious that the same ecu knows how to interpret that signal.
if 034 made a chip, what is hard to understand?



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Default now youre joking right??

Even your god Mance, knows that the 12V is an even-fire V6 with an Audi proprietary "uneven" crank ECM signaling.

When folks talk about "odd or even firing" engines they are referring to spark firing, not crank signaling to the ECM.

Re-read mance's top level article.


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