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Old 09-01-2008, 06:26 AM
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Default no clue as to how/why Audi does anything but I about fell off my work stool when I discovered...

this 4-5 years ago. I do not believe it's an intentional power-reducer but more likely just an INCREDIBLY stupid error/mistake. You have to remember something like this DEFINATELY has a significant negative influence on Audi's published city/highway EPA/MPG window sticker fuel figures. It's at least possible "maybe" Audi planned on narrow cone pattern injectors that were going to "thread the needle" past thru that obstruction then went back to ordinary wide-dispersal injectors when the bean-counters got a look at what narrow pattern injectors would cost.

Best I can offer is that trying to understand why someone does something/anything is a lot like a dog chasing a car, ie; once we catch it whatta we do with it!?!
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if theres issues like this with the 7A head ??
Old 09-01-2008, 06:38 AM
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Default all it takes to find out is remove an injector and peer down the bung and see...

where the injector is aimed and if there are any obstructions between the injector tip and the intake valve.

I "think" my 20V engines were clear of obstructions but I've always used RCE injectors because of their smaller/narrower, more fucused pattern that hits the valves rather than the runner walls 3"-4" upstream of the valves.

Using RCE's on my AAN/UrS4 was an incredibly good modification that cured a lot of related ails. Same on my TT. I just don't like Bosch injectors when used in cylinder heads with longer than 1.5" to 2" intake runners due to the fuel dispersal pattern always impacting the intake runners dramatically upstream of the intake valves. I will always prefer valve head fuel impact/dispersal to ANY/ALL other fuel-stream impact locations.
Old 09-01-2008, 12:18 PM
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Default Say you do all this but money for RCE injectors are limited

What sort of results would you get with the stock injectors with this mod?
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Default maybe only 20-25% of the net gain of both. But regardless of cash flow it remains a good start...

then later when injectors are more in reach you don't have to R&R the intake manifold to do this. Swapping injectors on these engines is a 20 minute task.
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Default after learning about FSI ..

for myself this all makes even more sense to see you do this. some of the pluses of FSI is the high pressure injectors that atomize the fuel before it hits the chamber where ours has to heat up off the back of the valves to "atomize" which i see now a good part of it doesnt ever even get to the valves until bouncing around ..Very cool!!
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So this is done in place of traditional gasket matching? I'd love to have one when I do my ports.
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Not at all. This is done "in addition" to traditional gasket matching.
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So a means to get the all important angle/slope to the valve. Smart.
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Bingo!


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