96 A4 2.8 auto: won't start (no spark) after trans change
11-17-2010, 01:14 PM
#21
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
Codes after delete codes, disconnect battery (few min only).
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.1
Data version: 20100831
Wednesday,17,November,2010,17:10:15:22662
Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4 B5
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77
Mileage: 211470km/131401miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Part No: 8D0 906 266 B
Component: 2,8l V6/2V MPI OBD2 D01
Coding: 01251
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 2B5BF371F377
No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 8D0 927 156 J
Component: AG5 01V 2.8l2V US D89
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 3469E80D2E49
1 Fault Found:
00526 - Brake Light Switch-F
27-00 - Implausible Signal
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4D0-907-379-ABS.lbl
Part No: 4D0 907 379 J
Component: ABS/EDS BOSCH 5 7679
Shop #: BB 37679
VCID: 356FD5092533
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8L0-820-043-2D.lbl
Part No: 8L0 820 043 D
Component: A4 KLIMAVOLLAUTOMAT_D75
Coding: 04162
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 29570979F98B
4 Faults Found:
01297 - Sensor for Vent Temperature; Footwell (G192)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01296 - Sensor for Vent Temperature; Center (G191)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01582 - Signal for Coolant Temperature
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8A0-959-655.lbl
Part No: 8A0 959 655 D
Component: Airbag V AUDI D00
Coding: 00127
Shop #: WSC 06334
VCID: 3469E80D2E49
4 Faults Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-10 - - - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95)
32-10 - Resistance too High - Intermittent
01025 - Trigger for On Board Diagnostic Lamp; Malfunction
31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8D0-919-0xx-17.lbl
Part No: 8D0 919 035 G
Component: B5-KOMBIINSTRUMENT D08
Coding: 00262
Shop #: WSC 02032
VCID: 2E5DFA65C065
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.1
Data version: 20100831
Wednesday,17,November,2010,17:10:15:22662
Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4 B5
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77
Mileage: 211470km/131401miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Part No: 8D0 906 266 B
Component: 2,8l V6/2V MPI OBD2 D01
Coding: 01251
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 2B5BF371F377
No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 8D0 927 156 J
Component: AG5 01V 2.8l2V US D89
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 3469E80D2E49
1 Fault Found:
00526 - Brake Light Switch-F
27-00 - Implausible Signal
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4D0-907-379-ABS.lbl
Part No: 4D0 907 379 J
Component: ABS/EDS BOSCH 5 7679
Shop #: BB 37679
VCID: 356FD5092533
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8L0-820-043-2D.lbl
Part No: 8L0 820 043 D
Component: A4 KLIMAVOLLAUTOMAT_D75
Coding: 04162
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 29570979F98B
4 Faults Found:
01297 - Sensor for Vent Temperature; Footwell (G192)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01296 - Sensor for Vent Temperature; Center (G191)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01582 - Signal for Coolant Temperature
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8A0-959-655.lbl
Part No: 8A0 959 655 D
Component: Airbag V AUDI D00
Coding: 00127
Shop #: WSC 06334
VCID: 3469E80D2E49
4 Faults Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-10 - - - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95)
32-10 - Resistance too High - Intermittent
01025 - Trigger for On Board Diagnostic Lamp; Malfunction
31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8D0-919-0xx-17.lbl
Part No: 8D0 919 035 G
Component: B5-KOMBIINSTRUMENT D08
Coding: 00262
Shop #: WSC 02032
VCID: 2E5DFA65C065
No fault code found.
End ---------------------------------------------------------------------
11-17-2010, 01:17 PM
#22
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
RPM log (ignition on, gas pedal pressed/depressed):
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...00-002-003.jpg
Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:43:13:22662 VCDS Version: Release 10.6.1 Data version: 20100831
8D0 906 266 B 2.8l V6/2V MPI OBD2 D01
Group A: '000 Group B: '002 Group C: '003
Voltage Voltage Voltage Bin. Bits RPM Load Load Speed
TIME TIME TIME
Marker STAMP STAMP V V V STAMP /min % % km/h
0.4 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 0.87 1.3 0.315 0 0 0.01 475 32.9 53.9 84
1.75 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 2.21 1.3 0.315 0 0 1.33 475 32.9 53.9 84
3.07 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 3.55 1.3 0.315 0 0 2.67 475 32.9 53.9 84
4.43 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 4.89 1.3 0.315 0 0 4.03 475 32.9 53.9 84
5.76 0 0 80 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 6.23 1.3 0.315 0 0 5.36 4850 106.3 53.9 68
7.1 0 0 0 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 7.57 1.3 0.315 0 0 6.7 2775 106.3 53.9 68
8.45 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 8.91 1.3 0.315 0 0 8.04 475 32.9 53.9 84
9.82 0 0 201 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 10.28 1.3 0.315 0 0 9.4 5700 106.3 53.9 68
11.13 0 0 201 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 11.61 1.3 0.315 0 0 10.74 5700 106.3 53.9 68
12.48 0 0 201 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 12.94 1.3 0.315 0 0 12.07 5700 106.3 53.9 68
13.8 0 0 49 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 14.27 1.3 0.315 0 0 13.4 3700 106.3 53.9 68
15.15 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 15.61 1.3 0.315 0 0 14.74 500 32.9 53.9 84
16.49 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 16.95 1.3 0.315 0 0 16.08 475 32.9 53.9 84
17.83 0 0 117 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 18.3 1.3 0.315 0 0 17.42 1575 106.3 53.9 68
19.17 0 0 0 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 19.64 1.3 0.315 0 0 18.77 5700 106.3 53.9 68
20.51 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 20.98 1.3 0.315 0 0 20.1 475 32.9 53.9 84
21.85 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 22.32 1.3 0.315 0 0 21.44 475 32.9 53.9 84
23.2 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 23.66 1.3 0.315 0 0 22.79 475 32.9 53.9 84
24.53 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 25 1.3 0.315 0 0 24.12 475 32.9 53.9 84
25.88 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 26.34 1.3 0.32 0 0 25.46 500 32.9 53.9 84
27.21 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 27.68 1.3 0.315 0 0 26.82 475 32.9 53.9 84
28.56 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 29.02 1.3 0.32 0 0 28.16 475 32.9 53.9 84
29.9 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 30.38 1.3 0.315 0 0 29.5 475 32.9 53.9 84
31.24 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 31.71 1.3 0.315 0 0 30.84 475 32.9 53.9 84
32.59 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 33.06 1.3 0.315 0 0 32.18 475 32.9 53.9 84
33.93 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 34.4 1.3 0.315 0 0 33.52 475 32.9 53.9 84
35.27 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 35.74 1.3 0.315 0 0 34.87 475 32.9 53.9 84
36.61 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 37.09 1.3 0.315 0 0 36.21 475 32.9 53.9 84
37.98 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 38.45 1.3 0.315 0 0 37.57 475 32.9 53.9 84
39.32 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 39.79 1.3 0.39 0 0 38.92 475 33.3 53.9 84
40.66 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 41.13 1.3 0.68 0 0 40.26 475 32.9 53.9 84
42 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 42.47 1.3 0.7 0 0 41.6 475 32.9 53.9 84
43.34 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 43.83 1.3 0.68 0 0 42.94 475 32.9 53.9 84
44.71 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 45.18 1.3 0.375 0 0 44.29 475 32.9 53.9 84
46.05 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 46.52 1.3 0.355 0 0 45.64 475 32.9 53.9 84
47.38 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 47.84 1.3 0.335 0 0 46.98 475 32.9 53.9 84
http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...00-002-003.jpg
Wednesday 17 November 2010 16:43:13:22662 VCDS Version: Release 10.6.1 Data version: 20100831
8D0 906 266 B 2.8l V6/2V MPI OBD2 D01
Group A: '000 Group B: '002 Group C: '003
Voltage Voltage Voltage Bin. Bits RPM Load Load Speed
TIME TIME TIME
Marker STAMP STAMP V V V STAMP /min % % km/h
0.4 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 0.87 1.3 0.315 0 0 0.01 475 32.9 53.9 84
1.75 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 2.21 1.3 0.315 0 0 1.33 475 32.9 53.9 84
3.07 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 3.55 1.3 0.315 0 0 2.67 475 32.9 53.9 84
4.43 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 4.89 1.3 0.315 0 0 4.03 475 32.9 53.9 84
5.76 0 0 80 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 6.23 1.3 0.315 0 0 5.36 4850 106.3 53.9 68
7.1 0 0 0 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 7.57 1.3 0.315 0 0 6.7 2775 106.3 53.9 68
8.45 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 8.91 1.3 0.315 0 0 8.04 475 32.9 53.9 84
9.82 0 0 201 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 10.28 1.3 0.315 0 0 9.4 5700 106.3 53.9 68
11.13 0 0 201 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 11.61 1.3 0.315 0 0 10.74 5700 106.3 53.9 68
12.48 0 0 201 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 12.94 1.3 0.315 0 0 12.07 5700 106.3 53.9 68
13.8 0 0 49 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 14.27 1.3 0.315 0 0 13.4 3700 106.3 53.9 68
15.15 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 15.61 1.3 0.315 0 0 14.74 500 32.9 53.9 84
16.49 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 16.95 1.3 0.315 0 0 16.08 475 32.9 53.9 84
17.83 0 0 117 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 18.3 1.3 0.315 0 0 17.42 1575 106.3 53.9 68
19.17 0 0 0 0 0 128 68 128 0 110 19.64 1.3 0.315 0 0 18.77 5700 106.3 53.9 68
20.51 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 20.98 1.3 0.315 0 0 20.1 475 32.9 53.9 84
21.85 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 22.32 1.3 0.315 0 0 21.44 475 32.9 53.9 84
23.2 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 23.66 1.3 0.315 0 0 22.79 475 32.9 53.9 84
24.53 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 25 1.3 0.315 0 0 24.12 475 32.9 53.9 84
25.88 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 26.34 1.3 0.32 0 0 25.46 500 32.9 53.9 84
27.21 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 27.68 1.3 0.315 0 0 26.82 475 32.9 53.9 84
28.56 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 29.02 1.3 0.32 0 0 28.16 475 32.9 53.9 84
29.9 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 30.38 1.3 0.315 0 0 29.5 475 32.9 53.9 84
31.24 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 31.71 1.3 0.315 0 0 30.84 475 32.9 53.9 84
32.59 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 33.06 1.3 0.315 0 0 32.18 475 32.9 53.9 84
33.93 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 34.4 1.3 0.315 0 0 33.52 475 32.9 53.9 84
35.27 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 35.74 1.3 0.315 0 0 34.87 475 32.9 53.9 84
36.61 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 37.09 1.3 0.315 0 0 36.21 475 32.9 53.9 84
37.98 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 38.45 1.3 0.315 0 0 37.57 475 32.9 53.9 84
39.32 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 39.79 1.3 0.39 0 0 38.92 475 33.3 53.9 84
40.66 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 41.13 1.3 0.68 0 0 40.26 475 32.9 53.9 84
42 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 42.47 1.3 0.7 0 0 41.6 475 32.9 53.9 84
43.34 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 43.83 1.3 0.68 0 0 42.94 475 32.9 53.9 84
44.71 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 45.18 1.3 0.375 0 0 44.29 475 32.9 53.9 84
46.05 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 46.52 1.3 0.355 0 0 45.64 475 32.9 53.9 84
47.38 0 0 0 0 0 128 84 128 0 110 47.84 1.3 0.335 0 0 46.98 475 32.9 53.9 84
Last edited by vtraudt; 11-17-2010 at 03:35 PM. Reason: Uploaded excel table image
11-18-2010, 04:50 AM
#24
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
Brake Light Switch fault 00526
Since it seems to be coming back, and I remain totally in the dark (no spark), I may want to check on this error (who knows).
Any suggestions how to tackle it?
Where is this switch located?
Wires from/to?
Connectors?
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 8D0 927 156 J
Component: AG5 01V 2.8l2V US D89
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 3469E80D2E49
1 Fault Found:
00526 - Brake Light Switch-F
27-00 - Implausible Signal
Any suggestions how to tackle it?
Where is this switch located?
Wires from/to?
Connectors?
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 8D0 927 156 J
Component: AG5 01V 2.8l2V US D89
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 3469E80D2E49
1 Fault Found:
00526 - Brake Light Switch-F
27-00 - Implausible Signal
11-19-2010, 04:49 AM
#25
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
RPM moves with gas pedal
One thing that seems to be strange (can someone reconfirm that it is NOT supposed to show RPM values when engine not running) is that the RPM value in VAGcom moves with the gas pedal motion (ignition on), see earlier logs posted here..
What can be checked (sensors, connectors, wires)?
What can be checked (sensors, connectors, wires)?
12-02-2010, 01:35 PM
#26
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
00526 - Brake Light Switch-F - implausible error
In the meantime, I have tried a lot of things:
- installed new crankshaft sensor: no change
- took the Engine Speed (RPM) sensor off, received error code
- reinstalled RMP sensor: now have RPM (150 rpm) signal when cranking (in VAGcom engine module, group 3)
- RPM do NOT change anymore with throttle (and engine not running). This is an error caused in VAGcom (or ECU) if more than one group is 'active' in a module (I had selected for example 01, 02, 03 at the same time).
We unplugged the 2 transmission connectors; received an error code.
Plugged back in. still have one error code in VAGcom transmission module:
Thursday,02,December,2010,15:45:11:22662
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.2
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 8D0 927 156 J
Component and/or Version: AG5 01V 2.8l2V US D89
Software Coding: 00000
Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
VCID: 3469E80D2E47
1 Fault Found:
00526 - Brake Light Switch-F
27-00 - Implausible Signal
Could this error cause 'no spark'?
How can I fix this "brake light switch". Where is it located?
Pressing the brake pedal is activating the shifter lock relay (audible, and light on shifter console turns off), so at least one switch (are there more brake pedal switches?) is working.
The only other errors are HVAC and Airbag (see latest log below).
The MIL light is still not coming on when ignition is turned on. I ran the output test in VAGcom (Instrument module, output test sequence, but I don't see that it tests the bulb; better said: I don't know if the output test sequence is supposed to turn the MIL light on). Can someone post the VAGcom instructions for output test of the MIL light?
We manually (spark plug out) tested for NO SPARK. I haven't checked "NO FUEL" yet (need to pick up the Noid light again).
I bought another ECU, but I would be surprised that the ECU is causing the issue (VAGcom does not show anything that would point at the ECU). I ran several output tests (transmission clicks valves through, engine module outputs seem to audibly work, etc.). I have the control module code saved (in case swapping ECU requires recoding of the new ECU).
I have not replaced the cam sensor yet; checks seem to confirm that it is working, and I am not sure if the cam sensor would cause the ECU suppress spark.
Now that we have an RPM signal, what else may cause 'no spark'. Assuming 'no fuel' in addition (to be confirmed again, but that's what we had last time) and 'no MIL'.
What else to check?
---
No Faults Found
Thursday,02,December,2010,14:06:15:22662
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.2
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 8D0 927 156 J
Component and/or Version: AG5 01V 2.8l2V US D89
Software Coding: 00000
Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
VCID: 3469E80D2E47
No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
a communication error occurred
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.2
Data version: 20101123
Thursday,02,December,2010,15:11:34:22662
Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4 B5
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77
Mileage: 211470km/131401miles
************************************************** ****************************-
Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Part No: 8D0 906 266 B
Component: 2,8l V6/2V MPI OBD2 D01
Coding: 01251
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 2B5BF371F379
No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A
************************************************** ****************************-
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 8D0 927 156 J
Component: AG5 01V 2.8l2V US D89
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 3469E80D2E47
2 Faults Found:
00293 - Multi-function Switch (F125)
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00526 - Brake Light Switch-F
27-00 - Implausible Signal
************************************************** ****************************-
Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4D0-907-379-ABS.lbl
Part No: 4D0 907 379 J
Component: ABS/EDS BOSCH 5 7679
Shop #: BB 37679
VCID: 356FD509253D
No fault code found.
************************************************** ****************************-
Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8L0-820-043-2D.lbl
Part No: 8L0 820 043 D
Component: A4 KLIMAVOLLAUTOMAT_D75
Coding: 04162
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 29570979F985
4 Faults Found:
01297 - Sensor for Vent Temperature; Footwell (G192)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01296 - Sensor for Vent Temperature; Center (G191)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01582 - Signal for Coolant Temperature
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
************************************************** ****************************-
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8A0-959-655.lbl
Part No: 8A0 959 655 D
Component: Airbag V AUDI D00
Coding: 00127
Shop #: WSC 06334
VCID: 3469E80D2E47
4 Faults Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-10 - - - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95)
32-10 - Resistance too High - Intermittent
01025 - Trigger for On Board Diagnostic Lamp; Malfunction
31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
************************************************** ****************************-
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8D0-919-0xx-17.lbl
Part No: 8D0 919 035 G
Component: B5-KOMBIINSTRUMENT D08
Coding: 00262
Shop #: WSC 02032
VCID: 2E5DFA65C06B
No fault code found.
End ************************************************** ******************-
- installed new crankshaft sensor: no change
- took the Engine Speed (RPM) sensor off, received error code
- reinstalled RMP sensor: now have RPM (150 rpm) signal when cranking (in VAGcom engine module, group 3)
- RPM do NOT change anymore with throttle (and engine not running). This is an error caused in VAGcom (or ECU) if more than one group is 'active' in a module (I had selected for example 01, 02, 03 at the same time).
We unplugged the 2 transmission connectors; received an error code.
Plugged back in. still have one error code in VAGcom transmission module:
Thursday,02,December,2010,15:45:11:22662
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.2
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 8D0 927 156 J
Component and/or Version: AG5 01V 2.8l2V US D89
Software Coding: 00000
Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
VCID: 3469E80D2E47
1 Fault Found:
00526 - Brake Light Switch-F
27-00 - Implausible Signal
Could this error cause 'no spark'?
How can I fix this "brake light switch". Where is it located?
Pressing the brake pedal is activating the shifter lock relay (audible, and light on shifter console turns off), so at least one switch (are there more brake pedal switches?) is working.
The only other errors are HVAC and Airbag (see latest log below).
The MIL light is still not coming on when ignition is turned on. I ran the output test in VAGcom (Instrument module, output test sequence, but I don't see that it tests the bulb; better said: I don't know if the output test sequence is supposed to turn the MIL light on). Can someone post the VAGcom instructions for output test of the MIL light?
We manually (spark plug out) tested for NO SPARK. I haven't checked "NO FUEL" yet (need to pick up the Noid light again).
I bought another ECU, but I would be surprised that the ECU is causing the issue (VAGcom does not show anything that would point at the ECU). I ran several output tests (transmission clicks valves through, engine module outputs seem to audibly work, etc.). I have the control module code saved (in case swapping ECU requires recoding of the new ECU).
I have not replaced the cam sensor yet; checks seem to confirm that it is working, and I am not sure if the cam sensor would cause the ECU suppress spark.
Now that we have an RPM signal, what else may cause 'no spark'. Assuming 'no fuel' in addition (to be confirmed again, but that's what we had last time) and 'no MIL'.
What else to check?
---
No Faults Found
Thursday,02,December,2010,14:06:15:22662
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.2
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 8D0 927 156 J
Component and/or Version: AG5 01V 2.8l2V US D89
Software Coding: 00000
Work Shop Code: WSC 00000
VCID: 3469E80D2E47
No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
a communication error occurred
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.2
Data version: 20101123
Thursday,02,December,2010,15:11:34:22662
Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4 B5
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77
Mileage: 211470km/131401miles
************************************************** ****************************-
Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Part No: 8D0 906 266 B
Component: 2,8l V6/2V MPI OBD2 D01
Coding: 01251
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 2B5BF371F379
No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A
************************************************** ****************************-
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 8D0 927 156 J
Component: AG5 01V 2.8l2V US D89
Coding: 00000
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 3469E80D2E47
2 Faults Found:
00293 - Multi-function Switch (F125)
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00526 - Brake Light Switch-F
27-00 - Implausible Signal
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4D0-907-379-ABS.lbl
Part No: 4D0 907 379 J
Component: ABS/EDS BOSCH 5 7679
Shop #: BB 37679
VCID: 356FD509253D
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 8L0-820-043-2D.lbl
Part No: 8L0 820 043 D
Component: A4 KLIMAVOLLAUTOMAT_D75
Coding: 04162
Shop #: WSC 06325
VCID: 29570979F985
4 Faults Found:
01297 - Sensor for Vent Temperature; Footwell (G192)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01296 - Sensor for Vent Temperature; Center (G191)
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
01206 - Signal for Duration of Ignition Off Time
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
01582 - Signal for Coolant Temperature
30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 8A0-959-655.lbl
Part No: 8A0 959 655 D
Component: Airbag V AUDI D00
Coding: 00127
Shop #: WSC 06334
VCID: 3469E80D2E47
4 Faults Found:
65535 - Internal Control Module Memory Error
00-10 - - - Intermittent
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95)
32-10 - Resistance too High - Intermittent
01025 - Trigger for On Board Diagnostic Lamp; Malfunction
31-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 8D0-919-0xx-17.lbl
Part No: 8D0 919 035 G
Component: B5-KOMBIINSTRUMENT D08
Coding: 00262
Shop #: WSC 02032
VCID: 2E5DFA65C06B
No fault code found.
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12-03-2010, 05:42 AM
#27
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
Transmission model
At the onset of the project (replace bad transmission caused by trans cooler leak in radiator, install new radiator), I looked up what trans I need.
1996 Audi A4 2.8 quattro automatic
Based on VIN and Year:
WAUEA88D0TA209419
Engine code (5th): A (indicates 1997 SOHC according to Haynes manual)
Model year (10th): T (indicates 1996)
Built date (sticker): 03/96
Looking for used trans (car-part.com etc.), they all show transmission code CJP and offer 1996 and 1997 compatible years.
I found a CJP out of a 1997 and bought it. After problems started, I took photos from both transmission (to upload to forums etc.) and found that the new trans was in deed a 5HP19, code CJP. BUT THE OLD TRANS WAS CODE DRN (which based on my info is not supposed to be in the car).
1997 A4 2.8 quattro auto could have:
A.T., 2.8L, Quattro, code CJP
or
A.T., 2.8L, Quattro, code DRN
I don't know how the DRN got into my 1996 (and the built date is not even close to model year change).
I also don't know if the trans has anything to do with spark, fuel etc (but know that if I disconnect the trans connectors, it won't crank; also can run output test in VAGcom, trans module and valves are clicking; and VAGcom runs error code check)
Just want to get input to rule out more potential sources for the problem.
1996 Audi A4 2.8 quattro automatic
Based on VIN and Year:
WAUEA88D0TA209419
Engine code (5th): A (indicates 1997 SOHC according to Haynes manual)
Model year (10th): T (indicates 1996)
Built date (sticker): 03/96
Looking for used trans (car-part.com etc.), they all show transmission code CJP and offer 1996 and 1997 compatible years.
I found a CJP out of a 1997 and bought it. After problems started, I took photos from both transmission (to upload to forums etc.) and found that the new trans was in deed a 5HP19, code CJP. BUT THE OLD TRANS WAS CODE DRN (which based on my info is not supposed to be in the car).
1997 A4 2.8 quattro auto could have:
A.T., 2.8L, Quattro, code CJP
or
A.T., 2.8L, Quattro, code DRN
I don't know how the DRN got into my 1996 (and the built date is not even close to model year change).
I also don't know if the trans has anything to do with spark, fuel etc (but know that if I disconnect the trans connectors, it won't crank; also can run output test in VAGcom, trans module and valves are clicking; and VAGcom runs error code check)
Just want to get input to rule out more potential sources for the problem.
12-03-2010, 06:03 AM
#28
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
Engine Speed (RPM) sensor G28 - troubling photo - location 2.8 engine
My Engine Speed (RPM) sensor is/was located on the driver side near, mid way up of the ENGINE block.
In Bentley is a photo showing another location of the crank, on the driver side of the TRANSMISSION housing (currently an open hole), that I found with search function.
Could that refer to the 30V (NOT AFC) 2.8 liter engine? Can someone confirm? Again, just wanting to rule out stuff.
Text: G28 Engine Speed (RPM) sensor (2.8 ltr. Engine): in transmission bellhousing, driver's side, front; mounting boss shown (w/out sensor)
In Bentley is a photo showing another location of the crank, on the driver side of the TRANSMISSION housing (currently an open hole), that I found with search function.
Could that refer to the 30V (NOT AFC) 2.8 liter engine? Can someone confirm? Again, just wanting to rule out stuff.
Text: G28 Engine Speed (RPM) sensor (2.8 ltr. Engine): in transmission bellhousing, driver's side, front; mounting boss shown (w/out sensor)
12-03-2010, 06:19 AM
#29
AudiWorld Senior Member
Thread Starter
Engine Control Module (ECM) - connector pin out
I can't find a good, readable pin out for the ECM connectors. For continuity (and diode test, voltage test, resistance test, etc.), I could use a good diagram that shows the connector letter and the numbers of the individual pins.
Can someone post a good one for my ECM
(Bentley Code J192, ECM 8D0 906 266 B)?
Can someone post a good one for my ECM
(Bentley Code J192, ECM 8D0 906 266 B)?
