has anyone tried installing 12K HIDs? How do they look? Blue, purple, white? Better than stock?
02-04-2003, 11:40 AM
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Re: a bit of warnin though, Alan imports rubber, so he is out of the country (more)
Here's the questions I sent him:
1. Will H1 be a direct fit for my 97 Audi A6? You probably wouldn't know exactly. But I've seen some HID bulbs where people would have to drill their housing to put them in? Do you gurantee it will be direct fit?
2. How different is 6K blue from 7.5K blue? I've heard people say that after 6K HID's loose their efficiency. Should I stick with 6K?
1. Will H1 be a direct fit for my 97 Audi A6? You probably wouldn't know exactly. But I've seen some HID bulbs where people would have to drill their housing to put them in? Do you gurantee it will be direct fit?
2. How different is 6K blue from 7.5K blue? I've heard people say that after 6K HID's loose their efficiency. Should I stick with 6K?
02-04-2003, 11:51 AM
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1) the bulb fist directly, but you do have to drill the low beam cover. enough of a hole to make sure the rubber gromet fits snuggly.
2)the 6000k setup is not that blue, infact, it has a greenish tint to it up close. farther away, its nice and blue. I chose the 6000k because no reputable company makes HID's over 6000k because they lose light efficiancy. DO NOT get bulbs that are blue coated. that lowers the light output A LOT.
if you have anymore questions, drop them to me in an email, blake_r35@yahoo.com
2)the 6000k setup is not that blue, infact, it has a greenish tint to it up close. farther away, its nice and blue. I chose the 6000k because no reputable company makes HID's over 6000k because they lose light efficiancy. DO NOT get bulbs that are blue coated. that lowers the light output A LOT.
if you have anymore questions, drop them to me in an email, blake_r35@yahoo.com
02-04-2003, 02:29 PM
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6000K, 7000K, 15000K HID bulb scam
Many people said, "oh no, not another blue bulb!", and thought that the blue low quality bulb "scam" finally spread over to hit the real HID market in late 2001. Philips Ultinons made in Germany have equal quality, like the OEM Philips bulb, so you cant really call that product a scam.
There are other blue HID bulbs made other places in the world that can be scam products. They maybe even have the Philips or Osram name on the box, or the base, but bulbs are made or modified by someone else. Equal bulbs can also be markeded to have different color temperature. Most customers would never know if color temp was was off, as long as they are matched as a pair. Some kit and bulb suppliers advertise with 7000K and higher. This can be suspective because a lower than OEM quality bulb can have been used. No bulb OEM manufacturer makes any versions with more than ~6000K. So either it is 6000K, or the bulb might have been painted. Painting bulbs decreases brightness and in most cases decreases life. So be aware what you are buying.
As an example, look at table below, and see how blue a 9000K bulb will be! Would you honestly want it to be as blue as the sky?
Yellow:
1500 k Candlelight
2700-2900 k Yellow painted fog halogen bulbs
-------------------------------
Yellowish white:
3200 k Sunrise/sunset
3200 k Premium H7 non painted halogen bulb
3400 k 1 hour from dusk/dawn
-------------------------------
White:
4100 k Philips/Osram OEM HID D2S
5500 k Bright sunny daylight around noon
----------------
Blueish white
5500-5600 k Electronic photo flash
6000 k Philips Ultinon HID D2S
6500-7500 k Overcast sky
-----------------
Blue:
9000-12000 k Blue sky
-----------------
Purple:
28000 Northern sky
12000-30000 k Ultra Violet light (black light)<ul><li><a href="http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/headlamp-faq.htm">http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/headlamp-faq.htm</a</li></ul>
Many people said, "oh no, not another blue bulb!", and thought that the blue low quality bulb "scam" finally spread over to hit the real HID market in late 2001. Philips Ultinons made in Germany have equal quality, like the OEM Philips bulb, so you cant really call that product a scam.
There are other blue HID bulbs made other places in the world that can be scam products. They maybe even have the Philips or Osram name on the box, or the base, but bulbs are made or modified by someone else. Equal bulbs can also be markeded to have different color temperature. Most customers would never know if color temp was was off, as long as they are matched as a pair. Some kit and bulb suppliers advertise with 7000K and higher. This can be suspective because a lower than OEM quality bulb can have been used. No bulb OEM manufacturer makes any versions with more than ~6000K. So either it is 6000K, or the bulb might have been painted. Painting bulbs decreases brightness and in most cases decreases life. So be aware what you are buying.
As an example, look at table below, and see how blue a 9000K bulb will be! Would you honestly want it to be as blue as the sky?
Yellow:
1500 k Candlelight
2700-2900 k Yellow painted fog halogen bulbs
-------------------------------
Yellowish white:
3200 k Sunrise/sunset
3200 k Premium H7 non painted halogen bulb
3400 k 1 hour from dusk/dawn
-------------------------------
White:
4100 k Philips/Osram OEM HID D2S
5500 k Bright sunny daylight around noon
----------------
Blueish white
5500-5600 k Electronic photo flash
6000 k Philips Ultinon HID D2S
6500-7500 k Overcast sky
-----------------
Blue:
9000-12000 k Blue sky
-----------------
Purple:
28000 Northern sky
12000-30000 k Ultra Violet light (black light)<ul><li><a href="http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/headlamp-faq.htm">http://faq.auto.light.tripod.com/headlamp-faq.htm</a</li></ul>
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