I hate Prius drivers (Audi content)
11-12-2006, 11:07 PM
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I hate Prius drivers (Audi content)
On my way to school today a Prius cut me off without singling, and another Prius was going 10mi/h below everyone else's blocking the traffic. Both were on their phone too, but I guess that's okay because they are so busy and important.
There are tons of these Prius elitist in Bay Area. I really need a bad *** horn on my car, any suggestion?
There are tons of these Prius elitist in Bay Area. I really need a bad *** horn on my car, any suggestion?
11-13-2006, 02:15 AM
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Only those who have no concept of total cost of ownership...
...Buy a Prius.
I ran the numbers to convince my friend (who had purchased a current-gen Prius) of his folly.
Let's say you have a choice. You can either get a Prius, at rougly $22k. You might get around 45 MPG overall in a climate requiring the use of A/C during the summer.
You could also get a Civic, at a cost of roughly $16k. You might get around 35 MPG, maybe a bit less if you drive heavily in the city.
With the Civic, you'll have more power than the Prius, less expensive maintenance, cheaper repalacement parts, and you won't have a potential $5,000 battery replacement hanging over you in a few years.
Now let's see. Let's say that 89 octane gasoline costs $2.15 a gallon on average. For the Prius, 15,000 mi/45 mpg = 333.33 gallons. This comes to a cost of $716 yearly.
For the Civic... 15000/35 = 428.5 gallons. Yearly cost = $921.57 in gas.
With the Prius, you save about $200 per year. Let's say there's an average price difference of $5k, $4k to make it easy on the Prius. At a $4k price premium, it takes 20 years for you to break even with the Civic's original cost.
This is EXCLUDING the increased cost of maintenance and possible battery replacement. And the power and handling that you give up.
So..yeah...I'll take a sub- $1k Audi 80 FWD Manual, put some money in to improve reliability, get 30+ MPG, and drive that any day over the week, for a DD, than a Prius...
I'm not writing off hybrid technology. It's just nowhere near economical enough. Diesels are currently the best way to go, and thankfully our favorite automaker from Ingolstadt is making some interesting progress in that direction...
I ran the numbers to convince my friend (who had purchased a current-gen Prius) of his folly.
Let's say you have a choice. You can either get a Prius, at rougly $22k. You might get around 45 MPG overall in a climate requiring the use of A/C during the summer.
You could also get a Civic, at a cost of roughly $16k. You might get around 35 MPG, maybe a bit less if you drive heavily in the city.
With the Civic, you'll have more power than the Prius, less expensive maintenance, cheaper repalacement parts, and you won't have a potential $5,000 battery replacement hanging over you in a few years.
Now let's see. Let's say that 89 octane gasoline costs $2.15 a gallon on average. For the Prius, 15,000 mi/45 mpg = 333.33 gallons. This comes to a cost of $716 yearly.
For the Civic... 15000/35 = 428.5 gallons. Yearly cost = $921.57 in gas.
With the Prius, you save about $200 per year. Let's say there's an average price difference of $5k, $4k to make it easy on the Prius. At a $4k price premium, it takes 20 years for you to break even with the Civic's original cost.
This is EXCLUDING the increased cost of maintenance and possible battery replacement. And the power and handling that you give up.
So..yeah...I'll take a sub- $1k Audi 80 FWD Manual, put some money in to improve reliability, get 30+ MPG, and drive that any day over the week, for a DD, than a Prius...
I'm not writing off hybrid technology. It's just nowhere near economical enough. Diesels are currently the best way to go, and thankfully our favorite automaker from Ingolstadt is making some interesting progress in that direction...
11-13-2006, 02:59 AM
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hmm...
civic hybrid vs civic EX...
they are the same cost after the tax break for buying a hybrid. Depending on how you drive, most civic hybrids are getting over 50mpg. As for reliability, they are proven to be reliable for the past 4 years.
Not to mention carpool/HOV lane driving privileges.
they are the same cost after the tax break for buying a hybrid. Depending on how you drive, most civic hybrids are getting over 50mpg. As for reliability, they are proven to be reliable for the past 4 years.
Not to mention carpool/HOV lane driving privileges.
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