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Old 12-21-2001, 02:23 PM
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Default An interesting PES G2 factoid...

the manifolds for the 2.8 and the 3.0 engines are indentical, thus the G2 will be a very easy swap for 2.8 owner should they decide to buy a new 3.0. Pes is saying that only a larger pulley (need to spin faster for the larger displacement) a few brackets and the upgraded software will be required to migrate the kit form one model to the other. It was a concern I had that helped to ease the pain of writing the check.
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wow..I wonder what the output of a G2 3.0 would be...scary :&gt
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Default if the supercharger was designed for the 2.8 ...

it wont be as large a jump as it was with the 2.8
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Default Not exactly...

the Supercharger isn't designed for a set engine displacement per say, they have a range from 2.0 to 4.0 liters. So that won't be problem. It's up to the manufacturer of the kit to determine pulley size for proper boost, intake, etc.<ul><li><a href="http://www.magnusonproducts.com/mp62_4th_generation.htm">http://www.magnusonproducts.com/mp62_4th_generation.htm</a></li></ul>
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true true... just wont be as efficient
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Default That isnt true either...

the amount of boost this can handle and spin rates is varied upon pulley. With higher displacement, and higher boost needed, you will just spin the supercharger faster. There is a RPM limit you can spin the supercharger, but the actualy supercharger isn't going to be any more or less efficient. Still pumping air, just spinning faster and pushing more
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what about compression ration? timing? firing?....
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Default If it's anything like the 1.8 redesign, it may not be that easy.

The new 1.8 doesn't have an FPR, and the injectors are much smaller. If the 3.0 which is a brand new motor has any similarity, it won't be all that quick to migrate it over to the new model year. We'll see though.
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Default the efficiency is determined by blade profile/angle of attack and mechanical losses

the mechanical losses will increase with speed, the blade efficiency is at 1 set speed not a range. So by increasing the speed to increase the airflow for a larger displacement you are moving out of the efficiency of the blade and the mechanical losses will increase too.

Not going to be a big jump but some =)
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Default Slightly I suppose

But it really won't make a real world difference in what you see as far as power, other than the 3.0 will be more powerful


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