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Just talked to Lloyd @ TDL Racing (ATTN: 12 Valvers)..........

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Old 08-15-2001, 02:04 PM
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Default Just talked to Lloyd @ TDL Racing (ATTN: 12 Valvers)..........

Asked him the ACTUAL performance gains that I could expect from a bored throttle body and K&N Cone Intake system for my 12 Valve.

He said the ACTUAL horsepower gains would be between 5-7. Add the ported intake manifold, and you're seeing 10 hp and 10 lb/ft.

Now, he said that would be the ACTUAL gains...and I know, I know...salesmen... But I made it clear that I was interested in the real life info...not some optimistic ridiculous number. That's about it...just passin' on some info to all you 12 Valvers. Oh, they port YOUR throttle body, so it's a 2 day turnaround from the time they get yours, to the time they mail it back.

I think I'm gonna bite the bullet and go for all three, or maybe just the intake and throttle body...problem is, I don't have much extra mod-money layin' around right now, but as soon as I save it up.........

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Default If thats what he told you....

Then thats what you will expect to get, ...if not more.

Congrats...Cant wait till my machine is done
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....so what exactly are you doing to yours?
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Default Im planning on taking...

one step further. Basically the whole shabang as well but with the equal length headers and somethin super secret that will be announced at a later date ;]
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Default super secret, huh.......? Can you say...........................

I hear someone's developing a *clears throat* 12 Valve supercharger system.

The name PES comes to mind...




I was speaking to a guy i know who is in the process of starting a company called DPM Tuning. He's got an account with PES, and he loves the 12 Valve engine (moreso than the 30V). Anyway, he claims that PES is working on a supercharger for our engines....one that will actually WORK! Imagine that!
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That would do justice in the 12v family
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Default Bryan is right. Lloyd's as straight-shooting as you're ever going to find. If he told you 10HP...

then it's 10HP. Or maybe even 12HP. But he doesn't pull numbers out of the air. That's why I feel so comfortable doing business with him. I know that I'm not getting the run-around.

And let us know how it goes! I think there are a lot of people who would like to hear your impressions of how you feel those mods affect the performance.
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Default Super secret isn't so secret it seems....

A WORKABLE SUPERCHARGER FOR THE 12V IS CLOSER THAN YOU THINK. SELL YOUR PATHETIC 4 CYLINDERS NOW WHILE YOU CAN - THE NEXT WAVE IS HERE, and it's called "TSUNAMI".
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