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ok, here's a snow related question...if ABS is disabled, then EDL is disabled?

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Old 02-22-2008, 09:52 AM
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Default You just said what I've been saying all along....

there is NO bias, all 4 corners get the same pressure.. Bias implies that one gets more than the other, which is not the case...

But it IS ABS acting to prevent a lockup.. It says so itself! It's not pulsing the pedal like in a full on ABS stop, but it's still pulsing the pressure to the rear calipers.. it can't just modulate and hold pressure changes, all it can do is close over the orifice to the rear lines or whatever it does..

I'd still have a fully mechanical system.
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We'll have none of that 'fancy talkin' on this forum!!
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Default eh, no you still are missing it...

it does modulate and hold pressures. there IS a bias when you start the car with a working ABS system.

The proportioning DOES exist, as stated in all the 5.3 literature.

The fail safe is de-energized solenoid coils which defaults to even brake bias.
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Default But the modulation only comes into play when the system detects ....

the correct situation that would be prime for rear lockup. Says so in the quotes you posted...
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Default My standpoint is quattro with all season tires is more dangerous than FWD with snows...

reason? Quattro will get you moving with NO problem. Then, you need to somehow turn and stop, which truth be told, all season tires are pretty bad at in all but the lightest snow.

Can you get by with all seasons in a storm or two? Sure. But in my experience, all season tires are a little scary in snow...
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Default I did winter tires on my GTI for 2 seasons.

They wore out too fast for the way I drive, and I really didn't notice a benefit to my old Blizzak MZ-01s vs the Fuzion HRi all seasons I'm running this winter. Of course, we haven't had too much snow this year or last year for that matter, and the snow seen thus far was handled just fine by the all season tires.

If I lived where it snows all the time, I can see the investment. But I don't, so I won't.
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Default yah exactly, so when im braking aggressively around a corner...

the bias remains at fully loaded the whole time--->dangerous.

dynamic proportioning is subtle, and is probably a feature I used all the time

It certainly was way more fun to drive then...having the rear lock up is not my idea of fun.

without dynamic proportioning the car is certainly slower through turns.
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Default Only if you're braking in turns... I do all my braking BEFORE the turns......

Granted, because my cars are so bloody slow, it's not much braking.. =)
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2nd that!!!!
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Default That's what I am trying to figure out.

we'll talk.....


Are you coming on the 19th?


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