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Old 07-10-2003, 08:41 AM
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Default Stage 3 comes with 91, 93, 100, and 104 octane programming.

No need to get special chips - you just select what program you want to run using either the cruise control stalk on DBW cars or a button on NDBW cars.
Old 07-10-2003, 08:46 AM
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Default But what does his post say?

270 hp vs 280 hp, even though we know for a fact that the PES kit puts out almost 300 hp on 93 octane. I am just saying that if someone is comparing 2 kits in street trim then the time slips are only going to go in the stage 3 favor since all of those runs are on race chips which pretty much makes the list worthless to them since it does not tell them what the 93 octane stage 3 runs vs the PES 93 octane.
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Default "I live my life a quarter mile at a time."

I see your point, but, in the end, timeslips mean jack squat. To get an accurate comparission, you have to dyno the cars with as many variables removed as possible.
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Default but the APR kit comes with those programs & the PES kit does not

hell, i was never even given the 100+ octane chip with my kit even though i paid for & was promised it by EVOms, PES's distributor

is there even one? & do they have them for both DBW & NON-DBW?

i wouldnt be suprised if there are'nt many T-28 times because there is no properly Tuned/Running 100+ octane chip for the PES kits
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Default "we know for a fact that the PES kit puts out almost 300 hp on 93 octane" LINK?

Ed's list contains car running both pump and race gas, on both kits. What's your point?
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Default Disagree...

While the ET has to do with the launch and driver skill, MPH is a good indicator of horsepower.
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Default APR looks great at the low RPM... But...

But the dropoff before redline sucks azz...
PES seemed to be focusing around the stock acceleration curve.
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Ummmm, that "dropoff" indicates that the car's operator lifted his right foot.
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I'm talking about the drop-off at 4500 RPM
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Area under the curve is more important than peak power.


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