Scammed by europersona.com? Help me out
07-14-2003, 11:19 AM
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Scammed by europersona.com? Help me out
As you may know, europersona.com is a fraudulent business which has stolen from many audiworld and vwvortex members. I have contacted the company that hosts his website in an effort to have his domain shut down. If anyone else has also gotten scammed, please email customerservice@networksolutions.com, and make sure to put "complaint about europersona.com" in the subject line. A copy of the email I sent is below. Thanks all for your help.
To whom it may concern:
I am writing in reference to a domain registered with you: europersona.com. This is a fake business and has defrauded multiple individuals, including myself. I personally paid for an Audi rs4 grill through paypal several months ago, and still have not received the product. Michael, the "owner" of the business, has made up lie after lie about invalid shipping addresses and losing emails. It has now been over 2 months, however, and the grill still has not arrived. The seller has also never taken the intiative to contact me in an effort to resolve these so-called shipping problems.
Europersona.com does a lot of their advertising through automobile message boards such as audiworld.com and vwvortex.com. Below I provide a series of links to posts on these websites, which show that europersona.com has stolen money from other people besides myself. At one point, michael from europersona.com provides an address for his supposed "shop," but when a member of the website drove out to this address, there was nothing but a wooded vacant lot.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=931654
https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/992256.phtml
https://forums.audiworld.com/qclubflorida/msgs/10118.phtml
https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/998267.phtml
https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1000006.phtml
I am going to encourage other people who have gotten scammed to contact you as well. I would like to see this website shut down, so that no more crimes are committed. Please let me know if there is anything else that I can do or any other information that you may need. Feel free to call me at ***-***-**** as well.
Sincerely.
Emile N. Brown
To whom it may concern:
I am writing in reference to a domain registered with you: europersona.com. This is a fake business and has defrauded multiple individuals, including myself. I personally paid for an Audi rs4 grill through paypal several months ago, and still have not received the product. Michael, the "owner" of the business, has made up lie after lie about invalid shipping addresses and losing emails. It has now been over 2 months, however, and the grill still has not arrived. The seller has also never taken the intiative to contact me in an effort to resolve these so-called shipping problems.
Europersona.com does a lot of their advertising through automobile message boards such as audiworld.com and vwvortex.com. Below I provide a series of links to posts on these websites, which show that europersona.com has stolen money from other people besides myself. At one point, michael from europersona.com provides an address for his supposed "shop," but when a member of the website drove out to this address, there was nothing but a wooded vacant lot.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=931654
https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/992256.phtml
https://forums.audiworld.com/qclubflorida/msgs/10118.phtml
https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/998267.phtml
https://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1000006.phtml
I am going to encourage other people who have gotten scammed to contact you as well. I would like to see this website shut down, so that no more crimes are committed. Please let me know if there is anything else that I can do or any other information that you may need. Feel free to call me at ***-***-**** as well.
Sincerely.
Emile N. Brown
07-14-2003, 11:28 AM
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Well this was their response
Anyone got any other ideas? I don't think the cops are going to do anything.
Dear Mr. Brown,
Thank you for contacting Network Solutions.
With regard to your inquiry, although we appreciate
your interest in the activities of our domain holders
it is not the responsibility of Network Solutions,
to "police" the Internet.
On November 1, 1999, a three-judge panel of the U. S.
Court of Appeals for the Ninth-Circuit ruled that Network
Solutions has no responsibility or duty to police the rights
of trademark owners concerning domain names.
If the domain owner in question is conducting criminal
activity we would ask you to defer to either the police
or the proper authorities.
Best regards,
Cielo002
Network Solutions, Inc.
http://www.networksolutions.com
Dear Mr. Brown,
Thank you for contacting Network Solutions.
With regard to your inquiry, although we appreciate
your interest in the activities of our domain holders
it is not the responsibility of Network Solutions,
to "police" the Internet.
On November 1, 1999, a three-judge panel of the U. S.
Court of Appeals for the Ninth-Circuit ruled that Network
Solutions has no responsibility or duty to police the rights
of trademark owners concerning domain names.
If the domain owner in question is conducting criminal
activity we would ask you to defer to either the police
or the proper authorities.
Best regards,
Cielo002
Network Solutions, Inc.
http://www.networksolutions.com
07-14-2003, 11:33 AM
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Yeah, I thought about that
The hosting company is propagation.net, but the only way to contact them is through a chat thing, and in order to register you have to be a customer.
07-14-2003, 11:35 AM
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Registrant Info
Registrant:
Euro Persona Motorsport (UUWQFEMVVD)
41 Richard st
West Warwick, RI 02893
US
Domain Name: EUROPERSONA.COM
Administrative Contact:
Euro Persona Motorsport (UDQMEPOELO) oxygensk8z@***.net
41 Richard st
West Warwick, RI 02893
US
4012653313 fax: 401-615-9267
Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, Inc. (HOST-ORG) namehost@WORLDNIC.NET
21355 Ridgetop Circle
Dulles, VA 20166
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 123 123 1234
Record expires on 29-May-2005.
Record created on 29-May-2002.
Database last updated on 14-Jul-2003 15:34:21 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.PROPAGATION.NET 216.221.160.10
NS2.PROPAGATION.NET 216.221.162.106
Euro Persona Motorsport (UUWQFEMVVD)
41 Richard st
West Warwick, RI 02893
US
Domain Name: EUROPERSONA.COM
Administrative Contact:
Euro Persona Motorsport (UDQMEPOELO) oxygensk8z@***.net
41 Richard st
West Warwick, RI 02893
US
4012653313 fax: 401-615-9267
Technical Contact:
Network Solutions, Inc. (HOST-ORG) namehost@WORLDNIC.NET
21355 Ridgetop Circle
Dulles, VA 20166
US
1-888-642-9675 fax: 123 123 1234
Record expires on 29-May-2005.
Record created on 29-May-2002.
Database last updated on 14-Jul-2003 15:34:21 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.PROPAGATION.NET 216.221.160.10
NS2.PROPAGATION.NET 216.221.162.106
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07-14-2003, 11:41 AM
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isnt this the guy that claimed to be working on a turbo kit for the b6 s4?
he wanted someone to "lend" his "business" a b6 s4 so they could install their "turbo" kit.
he claimed to be an up and coming tuner with no credentials to back up his work. claimed a 450+, maybe 500hp kit for the b6 s4's. then someone drove to that address and it was an empty warehouse. i think this was back 2-3 months ago..
he claimed to be an up and coming tuner with no credentials to back up his work. claimed a 450+, maybe 500hp kit for the b6 s4's. then someone drove to that address and it was an empty warehouse. i think this was back 2-3 months ago..
07-14-2003, 11:45 AM
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Do a whois:
Registrant:
Propagation Networks, Inc. (PROPAGATION4-DOM)
1851 Central Drive #110
Bedford, TX 76021
US
Domain Name: PROPAGATION.NET
Administrative Contact:
Propagation Networks (AD3698-ORG) admin@PROPAGATION.NET
1851 CENTRAL DR STE 110
BEDFORD, TX 76021-5865
US
800-607-0123
Technical Contact:
Propagation Networks (NO326-ORG) noc@PROPAGATION.NET
Propagation Networks
1851 Central Drive Suite 110
Bedford, TX 76021
US
800-605-5438 fax: 888-242-7554
Call them and see if they will help you. Use words like fraud, abuse and lawsuit...
Propagation Networks, Inc. (PROPAGATION4-DOM)
1851 Central Drive #110
Bedford, TX 76021
US
Domain Name: PROPAGATION.NET
Administrative Contact:
Propagation Networks (AD3698-ORG) admin@PROPAGATION.NET
1851 CENTRAL DR STE 110
BEDFORD, TX 76021-5865
US
800-607-0123
Technical Contact:
Propagation Networks (NO326-ORG) noc@PROPAGATION.NET
Propagation Networks
1851 Central Drive Suite 110
Bedford, TX 76021
US
800-605-5438 fax: 888-242-7554
Call them and see if they will help you. Use words like fraud, abuse and lawsuit...