Valentine 1 vs. others (including K40) what's really the best? TIA
02-14-2001, 05:42 PM
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I was curious about something and thought I would do a little trolling to see who hit the bait....
...and darned if the two "fish" I expected didn't strike within minutes of each other. Bass Masters here I come.Kinda gives me goose bumps.:-)
Now don't get all huffy.;-) I just wanted to see something. After the APR BBQ and the subsequent posts about the new APR products. The new products from Greedspeed. The Stop-Tech products . The claims. The counter claims and all that has come before. I will probably post my thoughts and results of my findings but I need to do a little more digging in the other forums and the archives.
On another note. I have become very interested in what is available for the 1.8s and I do not have any loyalties to any company as of yet. I have been talking to a friend of mine who has been very interested in 1.8 and the cars that are equiped with it. Even though I am presently a Fish Guy , I long to turn wrenchs again in an non-repair shop setting. The call of exotic islands may be strong but another venture may present it self that would keep me home and Mid-South 1.8 owners happy. Nuf said.
Beware the fool, for it is you that may in truth be fooled.;8-)
Now don't get all huffy.;-) I just wanted to see something. After the APR BBQ and the subsequent posts about the new APR products. The new products from Greedspeed. The Stop-Tech products . The claims. The counter claims and all that has come before. I will probably post my thoughts and results of my findings but I need to do a little more digging in the other forums and the archives.
On another note. I have become very interested in what is available for the 1.8s and I do not have any loyalties to any company as of yet. I have been talking to a friend of mine who has been very interested in 1.8 and the cars that are equiped with it. Even though I am presently a Fish Guy , I long to turn wrenchs again in an non-repair shop setting. The call of exotic islands may be strong but another venture may present it self that would keep me home and Mid-South 1.8 owners happy. Nuf said.
Beware the fool, for it is you that may in truth be fooled.;8-)
02-14-2001, 05:54 PM
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I don't care about claims or counter claims on theory. I look for unbiased review - if
I buy something + realize it wasn't all it was
cracked up to be - I suck it up.
In the end it's your decision whether you decide
to put the money on the table. It's your bet -
no matter how many signs the casino puts up trying
to get you to make the bet --- it's still YOUR bet.
cracked up to be - I suck it up.
In the end it's your decision whether you decide
to put the money on the table. It's your bet -
no matter how many signs the casino puts up trying
to get you to make the bet --- it's still YOUR bet.
02-14-2001, 05:57 PM
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are you still thinking about a 1.8 swap?
I think you should say screw that, and get a 2.1 turbo inline 5. That's the best audi motor ever made IMO. The bi-turbo is too heavy, plus that 2.1 can take well over 2bars of boost... fun fun fun. Plus you can mix+match badges from a 2.8 and a 1.8t to form 2.1t . Then all you need is an Rs2 6 speed, and FMIC, and .... how many fishtanks is that?
02-14-2001, 07:33 PM
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Laser info..
K-40 has a laser/radar jammer deluxe kit for like 1k. It's the best.
V1 is next in line. It's better then all other detectors hands down 'cause it doesnt **** you off with consistant falsing and it's got arrows. Thing is, if you get hit by laser then you're done like your sister-in-law's prime rib. The response time is like .3 seconds to the cop, instant. I've had almost every other brand detector and they all go 'BEEP' and light up in 40 colors. They become annoying and passive. That is when you'll get caught out there. V1.
Get the V1. Best value.. It will pay for itself at least once. Ask anyone on this forum that has one! Mine did!
If you're a speed ADDICT the you'll need a K40 combo (laser jammer mounts on plates or inside grille
my $0.02
V1 is next in line. It's better then all other detectors hands down 'cause it doesnt **** you off with consistant falsing and it's got arrows. Thing is, if you get hit by laser then you're done like your sister-in-law's prime rib. The response time is like .3 seconds to the cop, instant. I've had almost every other brand detector and they all go 'BEEP' and light up in 40 colors. They become annoying and passive. That is when you'll get caught out there. V1.
Get the V1. Best value.. It will pay for itself at least once. Ask anyone on this forum that has one! Mine did!
If you're a speed ADDICT the you'll need a K40 combo (laser jammer mounts on plates or inside grille
my $0.02
02-14-2001, 08:46 PM
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You certainly have to look at manufacturers claims with a skeptical eye.(long and not worth reading)
Sometimes it is easy to get caught up in the hype and miss important details. Manufacturers/suppliers will almost never point out the weak points of their products, they will dazzle you with all its strengths. You just have to step back and ask yourself are these strengths important to me and what are the possible negatives.It helps to do a little intuitive reading between the lines. Smart companies will never knowingly give out false information. They will just hype the strengths and not mention the flaws. As far as unbiased opinions go, you will not finds those from anyone that has any interests in the product. That goes for most anyone that has purchased the product. They want it to perform. They don't want to look stupid. They don't want to feel that they have wasted their money. That best you can hope for is that some third party(someone who does not spend their own money) will investigate the product and even then you will be subject to their veiws and abilities. So in the end , you read everything ,sift through it , and try to come up with an answer that may or may not fit your needs.
The "GPT5 KKKRL 99 Turbo" kit may produce 60 billion hp. It may be as fast as Larry V at the KK checkout counter. I live in a world that how it starts and idles is important. I live in a world that city driving means that I can't keep it wicked up and performance from idle speeds to 3000rpm are important. I live in a world were oil consumption,check engine lights, exhaust noise, engine vibration ,fuel consumption, reliability,and so on are important. In that world the "GPT4 kkr 98" kit that only produces 40 billion hp and is only as quick as a Marmot at half the price may do me just fine. Testosterone extra.
I say some of this because I see people defending and attacking products that they have no experiance with. I see them defending and attacking products that are not even on the market yet. Most of which is based on the manufacturers claims(Their track record is very important in this)and no third party testing. Now if I were such a manufacturer and I had a superior product , it would be in my best interests to get that product in the hands of a note worthy third party..... unless of course I had something to hide.
I am not pointing any fingers at any specific party.
I have a buisness that products are made with the most outragous claims attached to them. In my buisness the words "truth" and "advertisment" almost never bump heads , so I am used to wading through the hype . I have never seen an ad that said: "X2001, it is not very good but it looks good ...and besides we have famalies and need the money....so please buy it. " and I never will. ;-)
I do remember when I was younger going to Fla. with the family and going to a place called Kelley's BBQ and the sign said "Worst ribs in the world". They were not but they could have been.
The "GPT5 KKKRL 99 Turbo" kit may produce 60 billion hp. It may be as fast as Larry V at the KK checkout counter. I live in a world that how it starts and idles is important. I live in a world that city driving means that I can't keep it wicked up and performance from idle speeds to 3000rpm are important. I live in a world were oil consumption,check engine lights, exhaust noise, engine vibration ,fuel consumption, reliability,and so on are important. In that world the "GPT4 kkr 98" kit that only produces 40 billion hp and is only as quick as a Marmot at half the price may do me just fine. Testosterone extra.
I say some of this because I see people defending and attacking products that they have no experiance with. I see them defending and attacking products that are not even on the market yet. Most of which is based on the manufacturers claims(Their track record is very important in this)and no third party testing. Now if I were such a manufacturer and I had a superior product , it would be in my best interests to get that product in the hands of a note worthy third party..... unless of course I had something to hide.
I am not pointing any fingers at any specific party.
I have a buisness that products are made with the most outragous claims attached to them. In my buisness the words "truth" and "advertisment" almost never bump heads , so I am used to wading through the hype . I have never seen an ad that said: "X2001, it is not very good but it looks good ...and besides we have famalies and need the money....so please buy it. " and I never will. ;-)
I do remember when I was younger going to Fla. with the family and going to a place called Kelley's BBQ and the sign said "Worst ribs in the world". They were not but they could have been.
02-14-2001, 08:58 PM
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Funny you mentioned that. I was thinking about a certain 5cyl. powered Golf made by a certain...
..nordic Audi nut. I have not given up on a normally aspirated 250-280hp gutty V6. Still sifting through all the krap. I like having something that is not your everyday kind of car. It may not be the best or the fastest(I can asure you it will not be)but it will be mine and unique to myself and that makes ME happy.
02-15-2001, 03:55 AM
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I agree with most of what you said. Here's what I don't agree with (not long but not worth reading)
I don't agree with your statement that a person
who buys a product will automatically be biased
and therefore be unable to provide a potential
buyer with the truth. I bought a 12V Audi, and
I know it's strengths + weaknesses intimately. If
someone asks me for an honest opinion, I give em
a book of my thoughts. Some are favorable, some
aren't. The same goes for any other product.
Many times, a third party is being paid in some
way to be biased. It happens way more often than
people really consider. In my experience, it is
easier to find out what problems you may end up
having by asking someone who has already had to
work though the problems. Take ry4nn's comments
above as an example. I thought the K40, b/c of
it's price + hardware was worth it. He told me
otherwise. I have gone to many sites in the past
24 hours to research radar detectors, some were
obviously biased to the K40 - you can tell by
reading reports on other sites that tell it like
it really is. Unfortunately, the SR-1 seems to
be too new for me to get good intelligence on it.
I completely agree with you on the other part -
some people on this board are just getting stupid
about attacking/defending some products. It's
getting retarded. Personally, I don't think
anyone has the right to attack/defend a product
they do not personally have + use. And of course,
you will undoubtedly find idiots who defend a
worthless product simply b/c they bought it and
don't have the ***** to say they got suckered.
who buys a product will automatically be biased
and therefore be unable to provide a potential
buyer with the truth. I bought a 12V Audi, and
I know it's strengths + weaknesses intimately. If
someone asks me for an honest opinion, I give em
a book of my thoughts. Some are favorable, some
aren't. The same goes for any other product.
Many times, a third party is being paid in some
way to be biased. It happens way more often than
people really consider. In my experience, it is
easier to find out what problems you may end up
having by asking someone who has already had to
work though the problems. Take ry4nn's comments
above as an example. I thought the K40, b/c of
it's price + hardware was worth it. He told me
otherwise. I have gone to many sites in the past
24 hours to research radar detectors, some were
obviously biased to the K40 - you can tell by
reading reports on other sites that tell it like
it really is. Unfortunately, the SR-1 seems to
be too new for me to get good intelligence on it.
I completely agree with you on the other part -
some people on this board are just getting stupid
about attacking/defending some products. It's
getting retarded. Personally, I don't think
anyone has the right to attack/defend a product
they do not personally have + use. And of course,
you will undoubtedly find idiots who defend a
worthless product simply b/c they bought it and
don't have the ***** to say they got suckered.
02-15-2001, 04:00 AM
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I'm with you on the 250-280hp gutty V6. I'm keeping my 12V till it dies. Or till I die, whichever
comes first. I'm thinking throttle body +
exhaust next. Brakes a few months after. I
gotta get in touch with rimmer and persuade
em to get back up off their asses + continue
with the supercharger research. Vortrag's
mods are waay too pricy at my current financial
state. And there's always that tip kit avail
for my 12V... although at $1200, it doesn't seem
worth it.
exhaust next. Brakes a few months after. I
gotta get in touch with rimmer and persuade
em to get back up off their asses + continue
with the supercharger research. Vortrag's
mods are waay too pricy at my current financial
state. And there's always that tip kit avail
for my 12V... although at $1200, it doesn't seem
worth it.