jguthrie

Ah, thanks

n0yxl

They are two different machines; the A4 is all about handling, it'll stick to the road better in the corners and offer better traction in all conditions, as compared to the GTI.

The GTI can be a very fast machine in a strait line. My roomate has an 02 Stg III+ GTI and owns the C5/C6 'vettes on the highway.

They are both great machines in their own respects, it just depends what you are looking for.

CURSH[silverbullet]

I have seed a huge presence in the north east as well, Im sure their local forums are great as well.

You cand get much better than Swov.org (Cincinnati/Dayton area)

just something to consider.

Audi Junkie

VW is ranked right behind KIA, but ahead of Fiat, lol. Golf itself placing 88th in new car ranking. My dealer sells both VW and Acura. I considered a new Rabitt, for like 3 seconds. It's nice seeing RSX out there in both Touring Car and Grand AM ST and winning. No Golfs though. Reliability that is unknown to Audi owners for the last 20 years at twice the price. Sorta sad, really. Acura LeMans Prototype car coming next year, yea!

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Carson (K03x2)

and I always seem to keep passing it. No torque = no fun, and certainly not enough power to stay ahead of my 12V VR6. Not to mention all the other rice boys on the road that have been owned by the VR....RSX = slow, nuff said. You can have fun with your cheap interiored, sewing machine equipped car, and I'll drive a car with a real engine.

Oh, by the way...nice picture of the riced-out RSX...very tasteless.

Audi Junkie

You must be chugging that VW Kool Aid, their quality and reliability have been in the toilet for 10+ years. If you can produce a single favourable record or survey for VW, I'd like to see it. I won't even comment on my new B6 from '02.
The guy wanted advice on a Golf, and likely is able to assign various opinions their credit and value on his own. Giving him some rose-coloured assessment on Golfs' general service adequacy is fine, if that's your notion:
(Everything VAG=Awesome, Everything Not=Junk).

Other opinions, like mine, try to take into consideration real World facts. If you want to pimp late model Golfs as a great used car choice, go ahead, but why knock on my car? To be fully honset, it will be my wife's, nephew's or teenage cousin's car within a year or two. That's the point, to keep it, not dump it onto the used car market like every Golf owner I know. It seems like you not only want to personalize the issue, but it seems like you have some chip on your shoulder about VW quality. Frankly, it signals a degree of insecurity about that. We know why.

At my my friend's BOSCH Service Center, the other side of the shop is "Foreign" (Japanese) as is it at my Audi dealer, so I get a look at them beneath the skin. So if you look past your own bay or service writers' desk and beyond some ***-dragger/street ricer RSX, you might comprehend that not only are used Golfs the ****tiest ride going, that a new RSX loaded for $18k, a steal, warrantied the SAME as a new Audi (3yr/50k) It's a car that is totally out-of the-box great-on-the-street, it's carries it's own by any OBJECTIVE standard....including the interior. I actually hated the interior in my B6, the *RSX has more driver's room*. Shifter and engine are described as "best in the business". No timing belt to service. One of the few neutral handling FWD cars.

You should get out and drive one before you rag on it, as a minimum. Here is a typical comparo/shootout from C&amp;D magazine: "Cheap Speed". RSX was first for a few years running.

Link is dead, too bad for you. Not worth the effort. Gotta go, my car needs constant mechanical attention.

BTW that car pictured is German Rice, and I thought you'd enjoy it.


Here is a article lamenting the passing of the RSX in the NA market, kinda interesting.

http://news.windingroad.com/?p=480<ul><li><a href="http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/07/07/without-the-rsx-does-acura-lack-personality/">http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/07/07/without-the-rsx-does-acura-lack-personality/</a</li></ul>

Carson (K03x2)

And you still didn't address the fact that the GTI is faster than the RSX.... I can post the video of me lapping a Type-S (the "S" is for slow) on the track if you want, but I'm sure you don't, considering it doesn't portray the RSX in a manner that it is better than the competing VW.

Knock on the R32 all you want...Honda certainly doesn't make anything that competes with it in it's segment. People I see at the track with them won't drive anything else.

VW has its reliability issues, but they don't feel cheap. The RSX sure as hell does. And being associated with the honduh boy-racer crowd doesn't appeal to me in the slightest. You are basing the comparison on the fact that Honda products are more reliable, well that is great. Does Honda market any vehicles in this country with turbochargers? 5V per cylinder technology? FSI? Diesel availability? VR/W engines? Whereas VW/Audi are pushing the envelope with technology, Honda continues to make cheap, econo-commuter cars. Its working for them, which is fine. I'm not looking for a crapbox commuter car, and most GTI buyers aren't either.

The 337/20th GTIs are much more feature and performance packed than the RSX, hands down. Some people are more willing to take a reliability risk in the name of performance, I guess you're just not one of them, which is fine. You can drive your reliable yet bland Honda, and let the people who want something with a bit better performance buy the German cars.

I have had my GTI for over 4 years now, no plans of trading it in or getting rid of it.

And no, I didn't enjoy the picture of rice. That kind of stuff disgusts me, no matter where on the globe it came from.

Audi Junkie

VR6 GTi is a poorly balanced POS. You seem to have zero concept of how good the RSX actually is. More HP, better handling, beter reliability, better warranty, better fuel efficientcy. If you did not notice, GTi has a whole Rice-Boy aspect of it's own, but you are too close to it to realize how stupid a "tuned" Golf looks with a Techtonics or ABD sticker on it. wtf is with that colour on your ride anyway, it is putrid...hardly the overwhelmingly impressive ride you claim it to be. If you could hear yourself ..."on the track this....on the track that...performance"....you are 100% rice boy and don't even know it. FYI, most people don't find it necessary to "track" their cars in a mall parking lot. I bought a car to drive the 30k a year that I need to and do so in relative comfort performance and economy ...without it falling apart going down the road. You can't fool me, I know wtf is up. The final word is that a used Golf is an unholy piece of **** and you are an *** to try to tell some noob otherwise. I can only assume that you should know better, working at a dealership, therefore I am convinced that Ur-brainwashed. Drink some more VW Kool Aid and tell us how great VW, a marque rated 23/28 in Germany, is and knock on my new Acura....that REALLY shows how much you know about the subject.


Here is my rice machine, 32 mpg / totally neutral handling. BTW- the interior is awesome, it was the deciding factor for me because I am really picky about interiors. It's warrantied until 2009 and will be on the road long after some 2006 Mexi-Golf is "recycled".

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Audi Junkie

"When the roads turn twisty, the GTI again falls short. the GTI doesn't feel as tied-down and connected to the road as the RSX. At the racetrack, the GTI's average lap times were mid-pack, significant in that it was spotting the other cars anywhere from 20 to 50 horsepower. But from a driver's perspective, the GTI isn't much fun to drive aggressively.Enter a corner and there's a slight delay between when you turn the wheel and when the car actually turns. At the racetrack, the GTI feels soggy and heavy."

This does not even address the reliability issues.<ul><li><a href="http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=47901/pageNumber=12">http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=47901/pageNumber=12</a</li></ul>