A4 (B5 Platform) Discussion Discussion forum for the B5 Audi A4 produced from 1995-2001 B5 FAQ

Wheel Lug Bolts Too Tight?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-17-2001, 05:33 AM
  #1  
New Member
Thread Starter
 
Larry_Zajdel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Wheel Lug Bolts Too Tight?

I have a running debate with my dealer concerning the torque on the A4 wheel bolts. The owners manual says 90 ft-lbs. The dealership puts them on with an air impact tool and I can not get them off with the wrench in the Audi tool kit. The service manager told me that he advises people to carry a large Sears breaking bar and 6 point socket with them in case they need to change their own tire. My guess is the dealership is getting at least 150-200 ft lbs of torque on the wheel bolts. Anybody else have this problem? I'm sure if the bolts were correctly torqued to 90 ft-lb, the Audi suppled wrench would be adequate.
Old 08-17-2001, 05:42 AM
  #2  
AudiWorld Super User
 
dbtong's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 3,153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

should be somewhere in the 88-90 ft-lb range like you said.
Old 08-17-2001, 05:44 AM
  #3  
Audiworld Senior Member
 
shaggymatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 483
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Yep. I always tell people that get new cars

to have their dealers back off the lug bolts and redo them with the correct torque settings. Otherwise if you get a flat you will not get off the lugs on the roadside with the standard wrench.

89 ft/lbs is the correct setting, and they come free very easily with the OE wrench at that setting.
Old 08-17-2001, 05:52 AM
  #4  
Head Cat Herder

 
Kris Hansen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1998
Posts: 66,550,451
Received 85 Likes on 48 Posts
Default Even if they ARE tourqued correctly, you may have a hard time getting them off by hand..

that is why I use my foot. I am a big guy (6'2", 245) and even I have to use my foot to break the lugs loose. That is the way the emergency kit tool is designed anyway. One swift kick usually is enough to loosen.
Old 08-17-2001, 05:55 AM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
Uncle Don's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 808
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Wheel Lug Bolts that are too tight can distort the hub, brake disc, and or the wheel. That's why ...

there is a torque spec in the owners manual.
90-95 ft-lbs COLD is common for alloy wheels.
Old 08-17-2001, 05:58 AM
  #6  
AudiWorld Super User
 
Pelican Pete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Fairfield, CT
Posts: 8,215
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default I just bought an X-shaped tire iron...

... with the four different sized fittings.
Fortunately I have not had to change a tire on my A4. But in the past, I find it much easier to remove lug nuts with with the X-shaped tire iron than with the OEM tire iron, or even a breaker bar. It allows you to use TWO hands on opposite ends -- more torque, better balanced.
$8 from Pep Boys. And it fits in the spare tire well on top of my donut spare.

--P.
Old 08-17-2001, 05:59 AM
  #7  
Member
 
mjbrox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 8,426
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default That wrench is so dam cheap any way..I rotated my tires using it (more)

I just put the lugs on tight....will that be ok?

I did not kick it or any thing
Old 08-17-2001, 06:07 AM
  #8  
RKA
AudiWorld Uber User
 
RKA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 66,965
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Honestly, I've given up with most shops/mechanics.

The first thing I do when I get my car back from any service that requires removing and reinstalling the wheels, is use a breaker bar to loosen the bolts, and then torque them down properly. It's impossible to convince shop people that they are over-torquing the bolts. If it is at 90 ft-lbs, then it is very easy to remove the bolts even with the cheap Audi wrench.
Old 08-17-2001, 06:08 AM
  #9  
Member
 
mjbrox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 8,426
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

how much for the shocks??
Old 08-17-2001, 06:20 AM
  #10  
AudiWorld Super User
 
'Bahn Burner's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 4,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Make sure you loosen the lug bolts slightly before raising the car, that should ...

...give you all the force needed to loosen them. Just put on the stock wrench parallel to the ground (or as close too parallel as possible) and give it a stomp with your foot(don't jump on it just push)! Then raise the car and continue loosening the bolts. I also like to loosen the bolts in an odd sequence, skipping one in a clockwise fashion. This takes the stress off of just one bolt. Tell your service guys they're going to damage the bolts with that much torque! It also might be natural corrosion or some kind of lock-tight agent on the bolts causing such a stubborness.


Quick Reply: Wheel Lug Bolts Too Tight?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:32 AM.