Where can I get some cheap G12+
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Here are some crib notes for you. BASF did the fundamental engineering on Euro OEM and two common American coolants made here under license: DexCool and G-05. Also, I have the MSDS for G 12, got it from the VW dealer.
VW G-12
name % CAS
ethylene glycol 70-80% 107-21-1
diethylene glycol 10-20% 111-46-6
sebacic acid 1-5% 111-20-6
sodium hydroxide 1-1.5% 1310-73-2
Here's a recap of BASF's families of coolants followed by URL's for some of them. Notice there are three DexCool type coolants, G 30, G 33, and G 34
Nitrite- containing, amine-, phosphate-free:
G 05 - Universal use for all types of engines
007/400 F - Specially for Rover and Rolls Royce, approvals by Detroit Diesel, Cummins, Perkins
G 206 - Approved by MAN (for use in arctic regions)
Nitrite-, amine-, phosphate-free:
G 48 - Universal use for all types of engines e.g. Mercedes-Benz
G 51 - "Fighting grade product" with basic corrosion protection
Nitrite-, amine-, phosphate-, silicate-, borate-free (OAT):
G 30 - New generation of coolants e.g. for VW (see approval list)
G 33 - Approved by Peugeot, Citroen
G 34 - Approved by Opel/GM Europe, Saab
Nitrite-, amine-, phosphate-free Propylene glycol based:
Basin P 43 - Universal use for light vehicles and heavy-duty engines, applied in countries with special legal requirements
Engine coolant Super Concentrates:
Engine coolant Super Concentrates contain higher concentrated inhibitor packages than the normal Glysantin types. They have to be blended by the customer with monoethylene glycol according to a specified blending procedure to obtain engine
coolants that are conform to the product specification. Super Concentrates are available for Engine Coolant G 05, G 30 and G 48.
Super Concentrate G 99 + MEG --> Engine Coolant G 48
Super Concentrate G 102 + MEG --> Engine Coolant G 05
Super Concentrate G 106 + MEG --> Engine Coolant G 30
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=1927.html?id=1TfLz5Yoibss0sQ
GLYSANTIN G 05
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=1928.html
GLYSANTIN G 48
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=1930.html
GLYSANTIN G 30
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=2020.html
GLYSANTIN G 33
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=2944.html
GLYSANTIN G 34
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=201.html
GLYTHERMIN P 44
Propylene glycol and inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=3071.html?id=1TfLz5Yoibss0sQ
GLYSACORR G 93
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=3072.html
GLYTHERMIN NF
Ethylene glycol and inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=2000.html
GLYSANTIN PROTECT PLUS
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=3086.html
GLYSANTIN PROTECT
Ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=3258.html
GLYSANTIN ALU PROTECT PREMIUM
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
Ashland makes a number of the BASF formulae besides G-05 under license under the Zerex brand name:
https://www.valvoline-technology.com/data/VALV/ValvExtSecurity.nsf/fsZerex?OpenFrameSet
601-1 Antifreeze/Coolant
5/100 Antifreeze/Coolant
604-1 Antifreeze/Coolant
578-3 Universal
578-2 Antifreeze Coolant
279-2 Heavy Duty Precharged
G 30 Antifreeze
G 05 Antifreeze
G 48 Antifreeze
Extreme Life 5-150
G93 Antifreeze
Zerex G 48 - ANTIFREEZE/COOLANT Aluminum Protection, Long Life, Phosphate-Free
Formula
Zerex G 30 - ANTIFREEZE/COOLANT Aluminum Protection, Non-Silicate, Phosphate
Free Formula
Extreme Life 5/150 Aluminum Protection, Non-Silicate Phosphate-Free Formula = G 34
Approved by Opel/GM Europe, Saab = DexCool
VW G-12
name % CAS
ethylene glycol 70-80% 107-21-1
diethylene glycol 10-20% 111-46-6
sebacic acid 1-5% 111-20-6
sodium hydroxide 1-1.5% 1310-73-2
Here's a recap of BASF's families of coolants followed by URL's for some of them. Notice there are three DexCool type coolants, G 30, G 33, and G 34
Nitrite- containing, amine-, phosphate-free:
G 05 - Universal use for all types of engines
007/400 F - Specially for Rover and Rolls Royce, approvals by Detroit Diesel, Cummins, Perkins
G 206 - Approved by MAN (for use in arctic regions)
Nitrite-, amine-, phosphate-free:
G 48 - Universal use for all types of engines e.g. Mercedes-Benz
G 51 - "Fighting grade product" with basic corrosion protection
Nitrite-, amine-, phosphate-, silicate-, borate-free (OAT):
G 30 - New generation of coolants e.g. for VW (see approval list)
G 33 - Approved by Peugeot, Citroen
G 34 - Approved by Opel/GM Europe, Saab
Nitrite-, amine-, phosphate-free Propylene glycol based:
Basin P 43 - Universal use for light vehicles and heavy-duty engines, applied in countries with special legal requirements
Engine coolant Super Concentrates:
Engine coolant Super Concentrates contain higher concentrated inhibitor packages than the normal Glysantin types. They have to be blended by the customer with monoethylene glycol according to a specified blending procedure to obtain engine
coolants that are conform to the product specification. Super Concentrates are available for Engine Coolant G 05, G 30 and G 48.
Super Concentrate G 99 + MEG --> Engine Coolant G 48
Super Concentrate G 102 + MEG --> Engine Coolant G 05
Super Concentrate G 106 + MEG --> Engine Coolant G 30
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=1927.html?id=1TfLz5Yoibss0sQ
GLYSANTIN G 05
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=1928.html
GLYSANTIN G 48
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=1930.html
GLYSANTIN G 30
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=2020.html
GLYSANTIN G 33
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=2944.html
GLYSANTIN G 34
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=201.html
GLYTHERMIN P 44
Propylene glycol and inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=3071.html?id=1TfLz5Yoibss0sQ
GLYSACORR G 93
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=3072.html
GLYTHERMIN NF
Ethylene glycol and inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=2000.html
GLYSANTIN PROTECT PLUS
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=3086.html
GLYSANTIN PROTECT
Ethylene glycol with inhibitors
http://www.basf.de/basf/html/e/produkte/gebiete/automotive/produktinfo/produkte/produ
ktdetails_PN=3258.html
GLYSANTIN ALU PROTECT PREMIUM
Mono ethylene glycol with inhibitors
Ashland makes a number of the BASF formulae besides G-05 under license under the Zerex brand name:
https://www.valvoline-technology.com/data/VALV/ValvExtSecurity.nsf/fsZerex?OpenFrameSet
601-1 Antifreeze/Coolant
5/100 Antifreeze/Coolant
604-1 Antifreeze/Coolant
578-3 Universal
578-2 Antifreeze Coolant
279-2 Heavy Duty Precharged
G 30 Antifreeze
G 05 Antifreeze
G 48 Antifreeze
Extreme Life 5-150
G93 Antifreeze
Zerex G 48 - ANTIFREEZE/COOLANT Aluminum Protection, Long Life, Phosphate-Free
Formula
Zerex G 30 - ANTIFREEZE/COOLANT Aluminum Protection, Non-Silicate, Phosphate
Free Formula
Extreme Life 5/150 Aluminum Protection, Non-Silicate Phosphate-Free Formula = G 34
Approved by Opel/GM Europe, Saab = DexCool
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and spent twice the $ hunting down G12+ and flush all my G12 to G12 Plus? Or should I just top it off with some G12 and call it good(replacing thermostat)? The current fluid was drained/refilled abut 18 months ago.
I know G05 is prob a good choice too, in fact I use it in my family's MB E320. But I really want to stick with G12/G12+.
I know G05 is prob a good choice too, in fact I use it in my family's MB E320. But I really want to stick with G12/G12+.
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