APR Chip Questions - Are chips this expensive?
12-27-2001, 07:23 PM
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Then good luck and cross your fingers.
The warranty and free maintenance may sound like a bunch of freebee's, but in reality its incorporated into the price of the car. So why shouldn't you take advantage of something you're already paying for?
Some dealerships won't work on your car if they find it chipped. Some are chip friendly and some ar not chip friendly.
Some dealerships won't work on your car if they find it chipped. Some are chip friendly and some ar not chip friendly.
12-27-2001, 07:27 PM
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GIAC is another large tuner for Audis and the 1.8t in particular.
www.giacusa.com
APR will likely be the first to come out with a chip for the 2nd Gen 1.8t, but GIAC will have one as well at some point. Last I checked, GIAC chips are still soldered into the ECU. These solders occasionally break, causing the car to shut down until the ECU is fixed. APR used to use solders as well, but now uses a more reliable method.
APR will likely be the first to come out with a chip for the 2nd Gen 1.8t, but GIAC will have one as well at some point. Last I checked, GIAC chips are still soldered into the ECU. These solders occasionally break, causing the car to shut down until the ECU is fixed. APR used to use solders as well, but now uses a more reliable method.
12-27-2001, 07:42 PM
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Obvservation & recommendation regarding throttle response ...
You mention throttle response. It's my impression on the 2002 A4 with its drive by wire technology, that throttle response is being electronically molycoddled a bit in order to achieve the 1.8T's new ultra low emissions rating (anybody else wondering why your gas pedal foot is spending more time on the floor than with your older 1.8T A4?). Quite frankly, I'd be perfectly happy with a chip upgrade that would do nothing more than take that bit of buffering out of the picture (I want the car to act as if there's a direct coupling between my foot and the throttle).
Caution: Although to some, the above might sound like words of wisdom from someone who knows what the hell he's talking about, don't be fooled. I'm just a layman who's taking little snippets out of other conversations and trying to make some sense out of why my new A4 1.8TQM with 20 more horsepower has less apparent power than my old 2000 1.8TQM. True, the new car is heavier, but the additional horspower should more than make up for the added weight (by ~+6%).
Caution: Although to some, the above might sound like words of wisdom from someone who knows what the hell he's talking about, don't be fooled. I'm just a layman who's taking little snippets out of other conversations and trying to make some sense out of why my new A4 1.8TQM with 20 more horsepower has less apparent power than my old 2000 1.8TQM. True, the new car is heavier, but the additional horspower should more than make up for the added weight (by ~+6%).
12-27-2001, 07:59 PM
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Fortunately, I'm one of the lucky SOB's that got in before the DBW switch- pre 00s all the way! :)
I honestly don't know how much of that lag is due to emissions compatibility and how much is just electronic gizmos figuring out what to do with your throttle request.
12-27-2001, 08:22 PM
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Well in all fairness, you get more than just a hp boost
True, its probably not worth $17k+ but you do get some more stuff.<ul><li><a href="http://www.motorcities.com/articles/02porsche.html">http://www.motorcities.com/articles/02porsche.html</a</li></ul>
12-27-2001, 08:25 PM
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Buy the second ECU after something breaks!
Why bother with the spare ECU now... if your engine blows or you have some other major issue then consider getting a replacement ECU before bringing the car in... If you take the car to one dealer for a warrenty issue and they blame the chip, replace the ECU and take it to a different dealer...
12-28-2001, 10:56 AM
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40hp and 90ft*lbs for anything under 5k is a good deal in the world of auto-tuning.
Us audi owners have great advantages due to our turbo charged engines. Try to get 40hp out of a NA motor for $2k (let's not even talk torque)....