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Audi A4 T1.8 vs. BMW325i

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Old 11-29-2001, 05:04 PM
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Default My point is that you can't make general comments like "The Audi is basically a fancy Jetta ."

That is painting with a very broad brush. I don't care if the car has a 1.8T, 3.0L, or a bunch of hamsters under the hood. All A4's are built with the same quality.
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Default Does the Jetta or BMW have Virtual-Axis Steering? Aluminum suspension? ESP? Audi does.

Check MPG too! Audi is so far ahead, it's not even funny.
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Default Thats the dumbest-*** reasons I've heard in a long time.

At least you are being ethnocentric too...
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beemer = motorcycle, bimmer = car (fyi)
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Yeah the E36 M3's are sooo much fun!!
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Default chipping a BMW is not like chipping a turbo.

Chipping naturally aspirated engines yields very little benefits. Chipping a turbo yields a lot.

Example within same company:

Audi 1.8T chip on the 170HP engine adds ~40HP and ~90ft/lbs of torq

Audi 2.8 V6 chipping adds ~8-10HP and I'm not sure of the torq (but it's WAY less than 40HP.

The same will apply to chipping a BMW V6.
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Default not really

Yes, the engine is different,b ut the 3.0L has minor enhancements over the 1.8T like wood trim, power seats and few other very minor things. The cars are identical beyond some extra interior changes.

Any A4 is classier and more refined than any VW.
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BMW's engines are built in Austria.
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Default No such word or thing as "Bimmer"!psuedo-intellectual!2 different words for the same Company? B! m-w

The confusion is caused by different spellings and pronounciations of the same utterance. Say it: B-M-W. Beemer,Bimmer, Beamer-whatever, It's all the same. It's short for BMW. New Englanders mispronounced it Bimmer. For the correct pronounciation you have to pronounce the B&M together naturally, with the W deleted in favour of the adverbial "er" (ie:jog-er) "BM"-er is pronounced bee'-mur. You have to be listening to an "expert" to believe, even for a second, two different divisions of the same company go around their respective offices saying Bimmer or Beemer depending on what part of the building they are in. Geeeezzzz! also: I have heard this same statement before, it makes no sense and reflects poorly on the person who corrects someone on it. I think it is an example of someone hearing a "rumour" or speculation and repeating it as the truth with no personal knowledge at all. When my phone rings with a call from Munich, telling me they are 2 entirely different things, I will believe it. I don't care if all your friends make the same mistake or especially if the guys at the local dealer do too. I will stand behind the analysis.
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Maybe if you said the A4 is a fancy VW Passat, then you would be closer in comparison.


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