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Old 05-09-2004, 08:20 AM
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Default H&R vs. H-Sport Sway Bars

Looking to upgrade a 02 1.8t SQ that I track about 5 times a year.

I want to help correct/lessen understeer with the stock sport suspension and have been looking at H&R rear sway and H-Sport sway kit.

If I go with H-Sport does it make sense to install the front and rear bar or just the rear bar only??

It says that front bar is 60% stiffer so wouldn't that be contributing to more understeer even before the stiffer rear bar is installed to help reduce it?

This is making me think that H&R is smarter both finacially and that just the rear bar will give me much less understeer in conjuction with the stock sport front bar than installing both H-Sport bars.

I am an engineer so I know I am over analysing this, but would appreciate any thoughts. I have spent many hours researching this topic and now I just need to order the bar(s)!
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Default I went through the same analysis,...

and I got the H&R. I'm very pleased. I think the H-Sport is more important if you are starting with nonsport.
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Default You're analysis is correct; to lessen understeer...

you can either decrease to resistance of the front anti-sway bar or increase the resistance of the rear. I ordered just the rear to use with the factory sport suspension front bar.
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Default If you go with rear H&R and still have to much body roll..

then you can go with H-Sport..Have you guys seen some of the autox pics with stock sport? Crazy body roll.
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Default I talked to Mark Hotchkis directly about this...

A few times.. once at Norcal vs Socal and another time on the phone. You can install just the rear to decrease understeer, but the upgraded front bar is included to reduce the significant front end rolling. You should still feel reduced understeer if you go with the kit. I would also look into getting the S4 kit. I'm planning to go this route, once I get other things taken care of.
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Default Re: I talked to Mark Hotchkis directly about this...

I was not aware of the H-Sport S4 kit.

Would this be a direct bolt on for a 1.8t Quattro Sport Sedan?

Picture of the S4 rear bar and A4 rear shown on tire rack site shows two completely different rear bars.

I guess I'll have to call them about that.

Thanks everyone for the info.
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Default Yes, it is a direct bolt on kit.

Same front 35mm diam with rear 24mm diameter.. so you would decrease understeer even more. This will be what I'll be putting on.

He said it doesn't use any different mounting points, and for the serious track drivers out there, this setup would be the best.
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Default Re: Yes, it is a direct bolt on kit.

I just got off the phone with someone from H-Sport and he said the S4 rear bar will not fit the A4.

Did you speak with them? Maybe another call would be helpful?
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