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Old 12-25-2002, 04:23 AM
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Default Merry Christmas, Instead of coal...a coil pack failure...

I came out to my car this morning, it's been sitting for a couple days since we arrived at the family's for x-mas. I started it and immediately saw the check engine light flashing and then stay lighted. The car was sounding real rough, and when I tried to move, it was tough to get it moving. Is it a coil pack?? I'm 150 miles from home, and need to get home tomorrow so we can drive form Philly to Boston for the Patriots Dolphins game!!! Why me?!?!?!
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Forgot to mention...19,000 miles without this!
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Default This is not fair. Call Audi Roadside Assistance & arrange your reimbursed rental and flatbed.

I say it in that order because you definitely don't want to miss THAT game. Tough break. Yes, it does sound like a coil pack (except usually the engine warning light continues to flash). I hope they'll tow it to YOUR nearest Audi dealer without extra cost. Merry Christmas - Try to find some way to make lemonade from that lemon situation. Good luck.

Hate to ask you this, but would you please help our cause and fill out this ignition coil failure survey. Just fill in what you can and try to provide follow-up information later.


IGNITION COIL (coilpack) FAILURE SURVEY:

Just copy this survey, paste it into a new message box, and then,
place your cursor into each appropriate field and type in your response.

For instance, if this is your 2nd coil failure, your response to (5) might look like this:
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................
EXAMPLE: (5) 1st __ B ___ 2nd __ C ___ 3rd _____ 4th _____ WEATHER ... Was the weather:

A ... Hot
B ... Mild
C ... Cold - Above Freezing
D ... Cold - Below Freezing
5a .. Do you have any other comments regarding the weather (snow, rain, sleet, etc):

_____2nd failure on a miserable day - Raining Hard - 39 degrees - Remote road - Out of cell phone range _____
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ................

SURVEY:

(1) CAR ... Describe your car:

Make _______

Model ______

Year _______

Engine type _______

Auto/Manual _______

FWD/AWD _______


(2) _____ NUMBER OF FAILURES ... Is this survey for your:

A ... 1st. Coil failure

B ... 2nd. Coil failure

C ... 3rd. Coil failure

D ... 4th. Coil failure


(3) 1st _____ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ EXPERIENCE ... Other than shaking, vibration, rough idle, and flashing
engine warning light did you experience:

A ... Minor loss of power

B ... Moderate loss of power

C ... Major loss of power

D ... Total loss of power

E ... Didn't try to drive it

3a .. Do you have any other comments regarding the symptoms you experienced:

_______________________________


(4) 1st _____ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ WHEN FIRST NOTICED ... Did you first notice the problem:

A ... Upon starting your car

B ... After starting your car but before driving away

C ... Within 5 minutes of starting your car and driving away

D ... On the road - Inconvenience but not hazardous

E ... On the road - Hazardous situation - Traffic

F ... On the road - Hazardous situation - Weather

G ... On the road - Hazardous situation - Bad place to be stranded

4a .. Do you have any additional comments regarding the above:

_______________________________


(5) 1st _____ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ WEATHER ... Was the weather:

A ... Hot (85 degrees or higher)

B ... Mild (between 50 and 85 degrees)

C ... Cold - Above Freezing (between 32 and 50 degrees)

D ... Cold - Below Freezing (below 32 degrees)

5a .. Do you have any other comments regarding the weather (snow, rain, sleet, etc):

________________________________


(6) 1st _____ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ AFTER THE FAILURE OCCURRED ... Once you noticed this problem
with your car what did you do:

A ... Turned off the ignition ... Had it flatbedded to the dealer

B ... Pulled to the side of the road ... had it flatbedded to the dealer

C ... Drove to a safe parking spot ... Had it flatbedded to the dealer

D ... Drove until you felt you were a traffic hazard and concerned for your safety ... Have it flatbedded to the dealer

E ... Drove until additional symptoms made you too concerned to drive further ... Had it flatbedded to the dealer

F ... Drove home ... Had it flatbedded to the dealer

G ... Drove directly to the dealer

6a .. Any other comments regarding the above:

_______________________________________


(7) _____ DRIVING STYLE ... Is your driving style typically:

A ... Gentle

B ... Moderate

C ... Moderate and sometimes aggressive

D ... Aggressive and sometimes moderate

E ... Aggressive


(8) _____, _____ DEALER RESPONSES (select 2) ... What did your dealer tell you when the car was brought in:

A .. Car ready .. Or ... Will be ready within one day.

B ... Parts are on order. One week estimate.

C ... Parts are on order. Two week estimate.

D ... Parts are on order. Three week estimate.

E ... Parts are on order. Estimate more than 3 weeks.

F ... Parts are on order. No idea of when they'll be in.

G ... Transportation, if needed, was provided for.

H ... Transportation, although needed, was not provided for.

J ... Comments _________________________


(9) 1st _____ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ COIL REPLACEMENT ... If your engine is a 1.8T, Did the dealer replace
your coil with the latest revision coil (Part # 06B-905-115-J for 1.8T -or- 06C-905-115-E for 3.0):

A ... Yes

B ... No

C ... Don't know


(10) 1st _____ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ 'ALL' COIL REPLACEMENT ... Did the dealer replace 'all' your coils with
the latest revision ignition coils?:

A ... Yes

B ... No

C ... Don't know


(11) - LOCATION ... Geographically, where did the failure occur (Closest major city and State or Province):

1st _______________________________________

2nd _______________________________________

3rd _______________________________________

4th _______________________________________


(12) - MILEAGE ... What was the mileage on your car when your coil failure occurred.

1st _______________________________________

2nd _______________________________________

3rd _______________________________________

4th _______________________________________


(13) - WHEN ... In what 'month' and 'year' did this failure occur:

1st _______________________________________

2nd _______________________________________

3rd _______________________________________

4th _______________________________________


(14) - CAR BUILD DATE ... When was your car built (month/year) ... (Look inside your driver door pillar for build date).
Write the date or write, "Don't know".

___________________________________________


(15) ______ FOLLOW-UP ... Will you be providing follow-up answers to any questions where "don't know" was your answer
on this survey:

A ... Yes

B ... No

C ... I'll try to remember to do so


(16) - VENTING AND CUSSING ... Add any comments below that you'd like to share:

______________________________________________


You can do even more by using the following:

Here's the AudiTalk email address:

auditalk@audi.com

Here's the NHTSA link:
Old 12-27-2002, 04:09 AM
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Default Here ya go CPM

SURVEY:

(1) CAR ... Describe your car:

Make _Audi__

Model _A4___

Year __2002_

Engine type 1.8T__

Auto/Manual __Manual

FWD/AWD __AWD__


(2) __A__ NUMBER OF FAILURES ... Is this survey for your:

A ... 1st. Coil failure

B ... 2nd. Coil failure

C ... 3rd. Coil failure

D ... 4th. Coil failure


(3) 1st __B__ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ EXPERIENCE ... Other than shaking, vibration, rough idle, and flashing
engine warning light did you experience:

A ... Minor loss of power

B ... Moderate loss of power

C ... Major loss of power

D ... Total loss of power

E ... Didn't try to drive it

3a .. Do you have any other comments regarding the symptoms you experienced:

_______________________________


(4) 1st __A__ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ WHEN FIRST NOTICED ... Did you first notice the problem:

A ... Upon starting your car

B ... After starting your car but before driving away

C ... Within 5 minutes of starting your car and driving away

D ... On the road - Inconvenience but not hazardous

E ... On the road - Hazardous situation - Traffic

F ... On the road - Hazardous situation - Weather

G ... On the road - Hazardous situation - Bad place to be stranded

4a .. Do you have any additional comments regarding the above:

_______________________________


(5) 1st __C__ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ WEATHER ... Was the weather:

A ... Hot (85 degrees or higher)

B ... Mild (between 50 and 85 degrees)

C ... Cold - Above Freezing (between 32 and 50 degrees)

D ... Cold - Below Freezing (below 32 degrees)

5a .. Do you have any other comments regarding the weather (snow, rain, sleet, etc):

_Heavy Snow_____________________


(6) 1st __A__ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ AFTER THE FAILURE OCCURRED ... Once you noticed this problem
with your car what did you do:

A ... Turned off the ignition ... Had it flatbedded to the dealer

B ... Pulled to the side of the road ... had it flatbedded to the dealer

C ... Drove to a safe parking spot ... Had it flatbedded to the dealer

D ... Drove until you felt you were a traffic hazard and concerned for your safety ... Have it flatbedded to the dealer

E ... Drove until additional symptoms made you too concerned to drive further ... Had it flatbedded to the dealer

F ... Drove home ... Had it flatbedded to the dealer

G ... Drove directly to the dealer

6a .. Any other comments regarding the above:

_______________________________________


(7) __D_ DRIVING STYLE ... Is your driving style typically:

A ... Gentle

B ... Moderate

C ... Moderate and sometimes aggressive

D ... Aggressive and sometimes moderate

E ... Aggressive


(8) __C_, __A__ DEALER RESPONSES (select 2) ... What did your dealer tell you when the car was brought in:

A .. Car ready .. Or ... Will be ready within one day.

B ... Parts are on order. One week estimate.

C ... Parts are on order. Two week estimate.

D ... Parts are on order. Three week estimate.

E ... Parts are on order. Estimate more than 3 weeks.

F ... Parts are on order. No idea of when they'll be in.

G ... Transportation, if needed, was provided for.

H ... Transportation, although needed, was not provided for.

J ... Comments _They didn't have one in stock officially, but mechanic found one somewhere


(9) 1st __A__ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ COIL REPLACEMENT ... If your engine is a 1.8T, Did the dealer replace
your coil with the latest revision coil (Part # 06B-905-115-J for 1.8T -or- 06C-905-115-E for 3.0):

A ... Yes

B ... No

C ... Don't know


(10) 1st __B__ 2nd _____ 3rd _____ 4th _____ 'ALL' COIL REPLACEMENT ... Did the dealer replace 'all' your coils with
the latest revision ignition coils?:

A ... Yes

B ... No

C ... Don't know


(11) - LOCATION ... Geographically, where did the failure occur (Closest major city and State or Province):

1st _Scranton, PA__________________________

2nd _______________________________________

3rd _______________________________________

4th _______________________________________


(12) - MILEAGE ... What was the mileage on your car when your coil failure occurred.

1st __18,750_______________________________

2nd _______________________________________

3rd _______________________________________

4th _______________________________________


(13) - WHEN ... In what 'month' and 'year' did this failure occur:

1st ___December, 2002______________________

2nd _______________________________________

3rd _______________________________________

4th _______________________________________


(14) - CAR BUILD DATE ... When was your car built (month/year) ... (Look inside your driver door pillar for build date).
Write the date or write, "Don't know".

___Don't Know______________________________


(15) __C__ FOLLOW-UP ... Will you be providing follow-up answers to any questions where "don't know" was your answer
on this survey:

A ... Yes

B ... No

C ... I'll try to remember to do so


(16) - VENTING AND CUSSING ... Add any comments below that you'd like to share:
having this happen on Christmas day while away from home was not pleasant, but the dealer helped the situation immensely
Old 12-27-2002, 08:55 AM
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Got it ... Logged it ... Thanks a lot higgies!
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