DLSJ5

these are people I don't know, and who haven't ridden in my car. It wasn't intentional, and it was partly true, so I'm not holding it against them. : )

Also this guy Derek from Urban imports has stated that GIAC has the safest software, etc. I think there's some merit to what Bco203 is saying, although I don't think there's a conspiracy going on. : ) The problems have been real, but completely fixable.

DLSJ5

Absolutely true Mike.

DLSJ5

I just dynoed, and I'm more vocal about it. : )

I have no problem with you Bro as I think you've contributed to the discussions on both AW and AZ . You're right Chris is having real issues as I and a few others did as well. Mine was easily fixed. Looks like Grocery Getter figured it out too. : )

However, I do find it interesting though that you started a thread on this issue and you're running GIAC not APR. You're currently running the GIAC big injector file correct? Just curious why you brought it up?

DLSJ5

However, no disrespect, you are making it sound far worse then it really is. You list 5 issues in your post. The CEL will come on when your car misfires, we know that a faulty injector was the issue in my car, it's fixed it runs great, I made 250CHP, what do you think of that! : ) Grocery getter and Chris may have the same issue. The surging is common, do a search you'll find it happens on other chips as well. My NS chip surged too, I just never posted about it.

Just a few points regarding your post.

1) Like Mike stated the vibration issue happens with most of the chips, not just APR. MTM (Hoppen) even has a disclaimer on their website about it.

2) Boost? Who's having boost problems? When your car goes into limp mode because of the misfire, it will not make boost, a nice safety feature our cars have. : )

3) TB? Throttle body? No one has had an issue with this, it's always a good idea to do a TBA after you chip your car anyway.

4) Many of the chips have had surging issues. It's very common and very fixable, by adding copper plugs, lowering the boost can help as well.

5) All chips are a warrenty killer if AOA deems so.

I've seen two posts which deal with a serious issue on APR Stage 1+ cars, that is a misfire. I never posted about it because I fixed it myself. A misfire is not a good thing, but it's only happening at idle, that's hardly dangerous. While frustrating, the other issues, like Bhvdr said, are common and even normal while running any chip.

Let's see what happens with Chris and Grocery Getter then go from there.

DLSJ5

Surging is a PITA, but it's fixable Bro, hang in there. : )

basel

after reading the several posts out there, i was seeing if this was just coincidence or something of meat...

by all accounts APR seems to be, again a top drawer company - not just software guys, but real engine modders.

maybe what i was wondering why people even brought these issues here first...

if it was me...i'd go for the free trials and make sure any issues got resolved before i went full hog.

reading these posts it makes it seem like, people get chipped w/out and research or shopping around and then come here and complain about the various misgivings and make it out like these are the natural "side effects" if you wanna chip out...

im sure APR et al. wouldnt be too happy if this is how there are being portrayed, without a chance to fix whatever fixable issues are out there...

again, if it was me and i was having these problems after i dropped down $500.00 + on the biggest warranty killer, id be over to the shop screaming bloddy murder...

just more food for thought...

chedward

You know most of us post to benefit everyone here..That's all

diagnosticator

And for what its worth, APR's v2 Stage One EMCS software update is awsome! Its totaly fixed any rough edges that I felt the v1 software had. And they made other unexpected improvments to the drivability precision and more.

Awadd9

that the problems posted by some were bogus. Hey I can tell you that nothing is perfect. I am not trying to divide this conversation up in any way.

U went for a ride in Chedwards car the other day. Very nice and no fault codes.

Really it is all good in the end. Whichever way one chooses to go..

DLSJ5

No worries, I just found it interesting. It's all good. : )<ul><li><a href="https://forums.audiworld.com/a4gen2/msgs/748339.phtml">https://forums.audiworld.com/a4gen2/msgs/748339.phtml</a</li></ul>