who do you guys think has the fastest audi here?
09-06-2004, 11:32 AM
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Not to challenge your knowledge or anything
I don't know about B5, but B6 has a tendency to have higher tq than hp. For example, REVO dynos at 198hp/227tq (crank numbers). So about 270hp/300tq sounds about right (to me with my knowledge)
09-06-2004, 11:43 AM
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There's only so much you can do with programming and it's still a K04
and that stage 3 is no where near the APR Stage 3. Remember our K03 sports have the same hotside as a K04, they're not that much bigger. I know Mike is going to hammer me for saying this but I think all the K04 kits can match MTM's numbers if they push the boost to 28psi, there's only two guys I know of with the MTM Stage 3. The tuners that sell the kit rate it the same as the others 230-250HP. They've been very successful yes, but it's still a K04 and running near 2 bar is not reliable, although I'd do the same thing if I were them. : )
I'm not bashing MTM but let's be honest TUV approval means nothing in the USA and that's just too expensive for the cost to power ratio. I don't Deny that MTM makes good products but it's still a regular K04, what is the major difference between MTM and the other K04 kits besides the software? There's been a few guys that have pieced together kits successfully with far less $. Just a thought.
I'm not bashing MTM but let's be honest TUV approval means nothing in the USA and that's just too expensive for the cost to power ratio. I don't Deny that MTM makes good products but it's still a regular K04, what is the major difference between MTM and the other K04 kits besides the software? There's been a few guys that have pieced together kits successfully with far less $. Just a thought.
09-06-2004, 11:46 AM
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Challenge him Jared! What TQ numbers are you putting out Mike?
I know you've hit over 400WHP, what about your TQ numbers? Congrats at the 1.8t challenge, I think you got a raw deal.
09-06-2004, 11:51 AM
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I see your point...
I'm one of the people who figure that "if you're doing an upgrade, it better be the biggest one so its actually worth the change" We all know that as of right now thats the GT28R. However I do recall in Mike's post running the MTM stage III with the 28 that he only got around 15-17psi on it. I trust MTM a lot more than a company thats been coming out with Stage III "in two weeks" for several months. Just my take on things...
09-06-2004, 12:00 PM
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What dyno was that and what setup.
You have to understand hp/tq will change with what boost levels you run. As you raise the boost the tq will have a much higher rate of gain then hp. With about 20psi of boost with the PES T28 kit I put down 225 hp/tq, but when I went to the 100 octane chip it jumped to 250 whp and 255 tq. But different dynos will show differn tq #'s because they read it different or have a different load on the rollers.
