who do you guys think has the fastest audi here?
09-06-2004, 12:02 PM
#31
Elder Member
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 14,366
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My tq #'s at just 20psi are close to 300 at the wheels.
It goes up quick as I start to add boost. Here is an example of how my hp goes up.
16psi I made 335 whp (cold run/first run)
20psi I made 378 whp (hot run with NO cool down)
Now with the older 60-1 turbo
22psi I made 385 whp and it was still going upward at 7300 rpms (this was a cold run)
I will run the car at Harmann Motive this week at 25psi.
16psi I made 335 whp (cold run/first run)
20psi I made 378 whp (hot run with NO cool down)
Now with the older 60-1 turbo
22psi I made 385 whp and it was still going upward at 7300 rpms (this was a cold run)
I will run the car at Harmann Motive this week at 25psi.
09-06-2004, 12:09 PM
#34
Junior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,866
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well APR has been around awhile and has been running Stage 3's on the B5's...
With great success,some over 40K. They have been testing this Stage 3 GT28RS for the B6 for over a year and a half, it's making some great power. I agree the two week thing isn't the best PR for them, although I've been told the "two weeks" line be a few other tuners as well. : ) But they're turbo kits have a good history. MTM's Stage 4 will compete more with APR's stage 3, I think Mike (Bhvrdr) said it will be a K16, still I don't think that turbo can hit the numbers that a 28RS can, we'll see. The more kits the merrier.
09-06-2004, 12:17 PM
#35
Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,320
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
For b5 APR seems pretty good. But my gut tells me to trust MTM more than APR
I don't know what numbers Mike is putting down anymore (I just know they're huge). I also remember him saying that MTM gives insanely conservative numbers.
09-06-2004, 12:35 PM
#37
Now that's what i call bait Drew :) "TUV approval means nothing..." I disagree.
We may not have TUV approval in the states bud but to say it means nothing is overlooking a lot.
Remember the same technology that goes into programming the cars in Europe is still utilized here in the states. Indeed the programs are sent from Europe to the states via e'mail. The only major diffence in chips in the fuel programming.
A company that is held accountable for not only thier performance output claims but also the reliability of their software and hardware does not all of the sudden say, "OK now lets send completely different hardware and software over to the US to run crappy" The hardware is identical and sowtware is very close to identical.
The real benefit is the way in which they do their testing. MTM has produced their own multimillion dollare supercar from the chasis up during a 2-year secret project. They have extrememly close ties with Audi over in Europe, and have the cash to do long term research and development studies an their own cars, not customers cars.
This is the difference and it means a heck of a lot in the states. Now with all of the turbo and engine failures lately, I think people are starting to realize this.
cheers! Mike
Remember the same technology that goes into programming the cars in Europe is still utilized here in the states. Indeed the programs are sent from Europe to the states via e'mail. The only major diffence in chips in the fuel programming.
A company that is held accountable for not only thier performance output claims but also the reliability of their software and hardware does not all of the sudden say, "OK now lets send completely different hardware and software over to the US to run crappy" The hardware is identical and sowtware is very close to identical.
The real benefit is the way in which they do their testing. MTM has produced their own multimillion dollare supercar from the chasis up during a 2-year secret project. They have extrememly close ties with Audi over in Europe, and have the cash to do long term research and development studies an their own cars, not customers cars.
This is the difference and it means a heck of a lot in the states. Now with all of the turbo and engine failures lately, I think people are starting to realize this.
cheers! Mike