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Old 08-20-2011, 05:53 PM
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IMO. A4-CVT P+ $540/MON+1700DOWN seems too much.
Old 08-21-2011, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bimmers2
IMO. A4-CVT P+ $540/MON+1700DOWN seems too much.
Seems a bit high to me too but it is a 2012 and has Nav. I checked a couple different local dealers and all are within the ballpark.
Old 08-22-2011, 03:26 PM
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Seems a bit high to me too but it is a 2012 and has Nav. I checked a couple different local dealers and all are within the ballpark.
Does this incorporate their current lease offers? You need to deal on the Capitalization cost (sticker price) to get a better rate. Of course you have to have excellent credit as well, but you should definitely be doing better. I was quoted, I forget the exact value, around $570 for an A4 Quattro P+ w/Nav, Smart Key, all-weather floor mats and phantom black pearl paint with $1500 down.

I ended up buying a model with B&O and Sports Pkg for $42k and decided to finance.
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Try this guy,
tell him you are the member of AudiWorld forum, and TIME89 send you.

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Old 08-23-2011, 02:59 AM
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Bear in mind that Audi almost always has lower residuals than BMW and therefore their lease rates are normally higher.
It is not necessarily valid to compare 2011 to 2012 lease rates or similar cars because the residuals could be off by more than 8%, but the older car will usually have a promotional money factor or other incentives t keep the payment reasonable.

Also when leasing, many people confuse money down with total due at signing. The down payment is a capital cost reduction, and goes to reduce the amount financed by the lease. Many ads are misleading...they can say only $3000 down, but then the other fees such as security deposit if required, acquisition fee and mv fees are added, meaning the actual due at signing figure can be substantially higher.

Lease rates can also vary by region, and in some cases, by state. In New York, sales tax is due to the state in a lump sum at the of inception...meaning that the tax is either collected up front or amortized into the payment. Most other states do allow tax to be collected monthly with the payment...making NY quite unique. This should also be considered if leasing in NY.

All that aside, when I bought my 2010 A4, it was the first 2010 delivered in NY and the lease rates were horrible, so I bought. I tested the 328 and 335 extensively at the time, and found the Audi to be a much better value. It was larger inside and in the trunk, more comfortable, and more up to date from a technology point of view.

It comes down to taste, but I do think the A4 remains a better choice than the 3 series...this year. We will see what the new 3 series brings next year.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by MonzaA5
If the A4 is configured as above, the bimmer is an easy choice. FWD + bicycle transmission (a.k.a. CVT) totally ruin the A4.
I think that is a little harsh. I can't comment on the CVT part, but Audi makes one of the best FWDs in the world. But the power with this car has reached a level where you might feel the traction limitation of FWD upon exiting even medium curves, let alone tight ones. But one can argue that's not a big issue for normal drivers.

In the end, I agree that quattro is more desirable for this care, and it does provide an extra safety margin, but the FWD version isn't as bad as some people might think.
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Originally Posted by 2012A4
Does this incorporate their current lease offers? You need to deal on the Capitalization cost (sticker price) to get a better rate. Of course you have to have excellent credit as well, but you should definitely be doing better. I was quoted, I forget the exact value, around $570 for an A4 Quattro P+ w/Nav, Smart Key, all-weather floor mats and phantom black pearl paint with $1500 down.

I ended up buying a model with B&O and Sports Pkg for $42k and decided to finance.
I got the $750 rebate but that's about it. I have Tier 1 credit as well. I also sent off an email to Audi Laguna Nigel but have not heard back yet.

I have leased multiple vehicles and know diff between cap cost reduction and drive off fees (destination, DMW, etc...). I never ever put $ down to reduce the cap.

Thanks TIME... I'll try your guy at Rusnak.
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