All Season vs Winter Tires
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I live in Southern California and AS work fine for weekend trips to the mountains and most of the time riding around in the city. Anyone try the new Continental ContiExtreme DWS tires yet? They are getting rave reviews for wet, dry and snow traction.
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I also think that it is a good statement to other drivers to encourage others to get winter tires - something that many in my climate perplexingly resist. Considering that winter here starts in November and ends early April, and our winters here are bitterly cold (lower than -13F / -25C for many months) with lots of solid ice, I am usually left speechless. Or ranting!
I'll be sporting 17" Micheline X-Ice2 on steelies this year
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Umm... its snows in Philly? Folks, Philly (and NJ for the most part) doesn't get that much snow on average. When it does snow, the streets are snow covered for a day at most. A good high performance all season should be fine for occasional snow driving.
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Even the best, new A/S tires give up a lot when the temp dip below 45F and become hockey pucks below about 20F..
And while there may not be a lot of persistant snow in the cities, you don't have to venture too far out of Philly to see a bunch of it.
Look, here's the deal.....
Can anyone survive a moderate to even an occassional severe winter on good A/S tires?
Of course they can. They will have to exercise caution and may have to have a little luck but millions of folks do it every year.
Hell, I survived 1 1/2 winters in Watertown, NY on new Conti A/S tires with my B7 A4. But I knew I was only going to live there for that period of time before moving to Alabama and I didn't have the storage space so I opted to roll the dice. Fortunately I, mostly, manage to avoid the snowbanks.
Are they setting themselves up for success?
Of course not.
Does having winter tires mounted guarantee that you won't have a winter related accident?
Of course not, but they (coupled with caution and experience) give you the best possible chance.
The bottom line is:
There is simply no substitute for good winter tires in winter.
Anything else is rolling the dice. And that's fine as long as the guy making that decision realizes that he's rolling the dice.
And while there may not be a lot of persistant snow in the cities, you don't have to venture too far out of Philly to see a bunch of it.
Look, here's the deal.....
Can anyone survive a moderate to even an occassional severe winter on good A/S tires?
Of course they can. They will have to exercise caution and may have to have a little luck but millions of folks do it every year.
Hell, I survived 1 1/2 winters in Watertown, NY on new Conti A/S tires with my B7 A4. But I knew I was only going to live there for that period of time before moving to Alabama and I didn't have the storage space so I opted to roll the dice. Fortunately I, mostly, manage to avoid the snowbanks.
Are they setting themselves up for success?
Of course not.
Does having winter tires mounted guarantee that you won't have a winter related accident?
Of course not, but they (coupled with caution and experience) give you the best possible chance.
The bottom line is:
There is simply no substitute for good winter tires in winter.
Anything else is rolling the dice. And that's fine as long as the guy making that decision realizes that he's rolling the dice.
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Certainly it depends on your climate, but there are many places where A/S tires are perfectly fine.
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Yeah - I noticed this, too. I haven't figured that one out other than to find some steelies here in my city. I just phone Tirerack and they have never carried 17" steelies. So maybe they don't even exist. I guess I might be looking for a 17" set of alloys. Crud.