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Old 10-30-2008, 04:59 PM
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Default Even Edmunds has a S4 tfsi First Drive

More Like RWD Is More Like It

At least once during every drive of a hot-rod Audi S, R, or RS model, we ask the Question, as in: "Will Audi ever give in and make us a rear-driver performance car with the engine up front?" In response this time, Peter Schwarzenbauer of the Audi management board told us, "Never. Not while I'm here, at the very least."

So, rather than invest in a rear-wheel-drive platform that can turn an Audi into a BMW, Ingolstadt has done everything it can to urge its heavy, high-performance all-wheel-drive cars to let us have more fun during more technical driving -- that is to say, something more than the usual lack of decent turn-in followed by mad understeer. In this case, the 2009 Audi S4 introduces the company's pretty good solution.

For around $900 (and well worth it), you can equip your S4 with a rear-mounted sport differential supplied by Magna in Austria. Much like the recently introduced rear differential for the Haldex all-wheel-drive system used by Saab and the new all-wheel-drive BMW xDrive solution, the Magna differential shifts torque across the rear wheels, accelerating the outside rear wheel to push you through a curve proactively instead of just waiting around for stability control to poop on the party.

We got our best results by disabling the stability control and anti-slide-recovery electronics, dialing the ADS configuration to Dynamic and just going for it. Thanks to an overall ride height that's 0.8 inch lower than that of the A6, the optional 19-inch wheels with harder Dunlop tires, Audi's newest steering with just 2.2 turns lock-to-lock, 80 percent of the engine torque going to the rear wheels (40 percent front/60 percent rear is the usual split), stiffer springs, more tire camber and steering caster, and quick supercharged engine (whew!), the 2009 Audi S4 attacked the track and rural roads with uncommon zeal for a car based on the cooking A4.

This car can still understeer, but it now has a chassis that's up to clubsport-style antics. Of course, if you could equip an A4 with a 25:75 bias Quattro setup with the extreme possibility of a 5:95 split and then peel off another 200 pounds yet, such a car could be a legend. For now, though, the 2009 Audi S4 is sweet progress.

There's more, just click the<ul><li><a href="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=134769?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*">Link</a></li></ul>
Old 10-30-2008, 05:30 PM
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Default the 6 speed is .2 faster than the 7dsg to 60mph...strange eh.

This car is going to be a winner.
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7 DSG??
Old 10-30-2008, 06:53 PM
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Default Audi is estimating this car with a manual transmission will achieve 17 mpg EPA city and 32 mpg hwy.

... in the U.S. +1mpg highway for DSG.

Now that is impressive it it ends up true. The DSG has a 22% increase in highway mileage over a 2.0T Tip. Even in manual it bests the 2.0T by 6%.
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It's been an open secret for months. Why the surprise?
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I misread. I thought it's the normal B8.
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It's probably a typo, 5.3s for the six speed and 5.1 for the DSG
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Are those truly EPA estimates, or converted Euro cycle figures? Euro tends to be slightly better.
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Default DSG needs to shift to 3rd to get to 60, and it has no launch control (I could be wrong on that last

part).

In-gear times (40-60, 50-70, etc) will be much more impressive.
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Default yeah, seriously. I'll believe it when I actually see it on EPA's own website.

Then again, people who buy cars like the S4 aren't overly concerned with fuel economy, so even if the numbers are lower, it shouldn't really hurt the sales.


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