PanzerWagon

in other words, can anyone reasonably tell the difference between all digital and analog DSP on the B&O system?

Besides, nearly all my music is in the non-HiFi AAC or MP3 format these days which I doubt is going to be improved by all-digital DSP.

In any case, these things still fail to add up to the $1K premium you're paying over a top-line Garmin unit.

I will concede that NAV probably makes resale a bit better, but since it's an Audi, you're gonna get fuxored on resale anyway, so that's probably a moot point.

PanzerWagon

I still feel that we're at the same point in time that CD players used to be in cars (where you paid an extra $600-1000 for a CD player while home players were $99). About two years later they became standard equipment (or really cheap) in cars.

I mean you can get NAV in many phones these days. The parts ain't that expensive.

BMWBig6

I wish it was cheaper too, trust me! I don't think it's "worth" the cost either.

Mobilehavoc

So having the integration/convenience of OEM for an extra $300 or less is worth it IMHO.

Longwolf (Christian)

i would rather spend the $1700 difference on a chip, 18" wheels, window tint, and ipod kit.

boynix

that's why I use my garmin also.. i love the fact that I can use it on any car i want.

PanzerWagon

that's a fvckload of cash for a backup camera, digital DSP, and the ability to see yourself going through a tunnel.

vplaza

If all you want is a unit that can point you in the right direction, then a portable navi or even one of the phones with gps would do.

But if you want a unit that:

1. Is cleanly integrated into the vehicle aesthetics.
2. Is integrated to the radio to mute the radio to provide voice directions.
3. I don't have to worry about mounting and dismounting. (Hence, is always there, without worrying about "did I leave it in the other car?" or "I forgot the power cord".)
4. Is mounted "legally" where I can see it.
5. Etc.

The point is, there are certainly things that some people consider valuable and worth it than just using the unit to get from point A to point B. They may not be of value to you, but to others, these things add up to something worth the added expense.

snagitseven

On the other side of the coin the advantages of the Nuvi are:

- Touch screen is fast and easy (try setting a point on the OEM Nav map as a destination easily..); the OEM does have a nifty zoom feature via the MMI **** though.
- Has many more POI categories and subcategories i.e. stores, post offices (the OEM has only shopping centers and wine stores??)
- Traffic!
- More details are displayed in more zoom out levels (this one drives me nuts on the OEM- past 500 yds zoom level you lose most of the street details) even though the OEM has a larger screen.
- Portable - take it with you if needed at your destination or use in another car
- Speaks all street names for all directions
- Selectable voices and car icons
- GUI is generally more intuitive and mostly faster to operate, ie. spelling w/keypad vs. MMI **** select w/OEM

So....with both systems having their strengths, that's why I often use both together. (It's fun to see the often different routes the two choose for the same destination).

DeMOROlized

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If that's not perspective view, then it's a really weird city layout with street spread far apart close by and bunched up together further away.