What's the deal with the weak engines?
08-30-2007, 08:00 AM
#21
The 335i will do 60 in 4.8 to 5.0 seconds. Audi v6 cars on the other hand have put down...
notoriously slower numbers or the same as what audi advertises. This year R and T tested a 2.0t and a 3.2 with their expensive VBOX logger and they actually came out identical to 60.
08-30-2007, 08:05 AM
#22
I paid 38 grand for my 2.0T FSI with options. The 3.2 is 36 grand in its completely base FWD form..
which is not comparable to a proper RWD platform. You'd want quattro to compete with that which would put you at $38,400 with no options at all. The base for a 335i is within a grand of that and the 335i is faster than an S4 much less A4. Not to mention the prices for the new A4 will likely be even higher.
08-30-2007, 08:28 AM
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i want that 3.0 TDi. i wonder if running veggie/bio will void the warranty ?
anyone have more speculation on which engines will arrive here?
i'm betting we ONLY get the i4 TDi. bastages.
but i bet the 3.0 TDi will be $40k+
i'm betting we ONLY get the i4 TDi. bastages.
but i bet the 3.0 TDi will be $40k+
08-30-2007, 09:15 AM
#24
it's a tactic that improves both reliability and sales over the long term
by staggering the introduction of new engines with new models, there is less to go wrong in the new car. when new engines are put in the B8 3 years from now, any issues with the new platform will have been worked out. this will also reinvigorate sales of an aging platform right when it needs it.
BMW has been doing this for years.
BMW has been doing this for years.
08-30-2007, 09:49 AM
#26
The 3.2 in the TT has little in common with the 3.2 in the longitudinal/torsen audis
though i agree that the 3.2 in the B7 A4 also isn't much better than it's 2.0t. However, I believe the version in the B8 platform is a slight improvement (more torque, correct?).
In the rest of the world, Audi's real bread & butter V6 engines are the 2.7TDI and 3.0TDI. The latter is perhaps the best combination of power and economy available.
In the rest of the world, Audi's real bread & butter V6 engines are the 2.7TDI and 3.0TDI. The latter is perhaps the best combination of power and economy available.
08-30-2007, 09:52 AM
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Perfect car for you...
I think few cars would beat you 0-100 then.
<img src="http://www.thunderinthevalleyairshow.com/Images%20-%20Kinsaul/erau_car2-497x369.jpg">
Srsly, though, get it over with and stick to BMW already. Not sure what you're trying to accomplish here.
<img src="http://www.thunderinthevalleyairshow.com/Images%20-%20Kinsaul/erau_car2-497x369.jpg">
Srsly, though, get it over with and stick to BMW already. Not sure what you're trying to accomplish here.
08-30-2007, 10:33 AM
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If you lease, the 335i will be cheaper based on its high residuals
I recently did a Euro delivery lease on a 335i sedan with Sport and Premium packages and a couple of other options for a $44,900 MSRP. My lease payment on a 3-year lease at 12K miles per year is $476.41 including tax with zero cap reduction (drive-off was $835) after I put down a refundable security deposit of 4 grand (total of 8 security deposits which reduced my money factor by 0.00049 to 0.00156).
I didn't have to check A4 3.2 lease prices since the residual value was at least 10 points below my 63%. Any MSRP savings you get on an Audi gets wiped out by the much lower residual value.
I still hope to come back to Audi with a Euro delivery B8 A4 in 3 years, but it looks like I would have to purchase the car since lease payments are not likely to be competitive.
I didn't have to check A4 3.2 lease prices since the residual value was at least 10 points below my 63%. Any MSRP savings you get on an Audi gets wiped out by the much lower residual value.
I still hope to come back to Audi with a Euro delivery B8 A4 in 3 years, but it looks like I would have to purchase the car since lease payments are not likely to be competitive.