What's the deal with the weak engines?
08-30-2007, 10:37 AM
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Why do you have to take it to extremes? All I want is for Audi to be competitive
Is there something wrong with that?
In the engine department the 3.2 isn't competitive against the IS350/G35 and the 335. That is a fact that seems to rub certain people the wrong way. I'm not sure why?
In the engine department the 3.2 isn't competitive against the IS350/G35 and the 335. That is a fact that seems to rub certain people the wrong way. I'm not sure why?
08-30-2007, 11:16 AM
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I think others want Audi to be competitive as well.
But the way you describe it, life is a drag race and you need to be in a car that will smoke the car in the next lane. I may have read you wrong, but the constant reference to 0-60 times gives the impression that that is all that matters to you.
The reality is Audi's strategy, love it or hate it, is to give their base cars decent power, but if you want to go faster, you have to pony up to the S or RS cars. I don't think anything is going to change that strategy, so all we can do is complain to deaf ears.
Take it for what it is and decide to either go with it or not. I've learned to never expect Audi to make their non S or RS cars tops in hp/torque, 0-60, etc. I'd be happy if they surprised me one day, but I think people buy Audis for more than these numbers.
I've had my share of having a car that I knew would smoke the car next to me. Not by bag anymore.
The reality is Audi's strategy, love it or hate it, is to give their base cars decent power, but if you want to go faster, you have to pony up to the S or RS cars. I don't think anything is going to change that strategy, so all we can do is complain to deaf ears.
Take it for what it is and decide to either go with it or not. I've learned to never expect Audi to make their non S or RS cars tops in hp/torque, 0-60, etc. I'd be happy if they surprised me one day, but I think people buy Audis for more than these numbers.
I've had my share of having a car that I knew would smoke the car next to me. Not by bag anymore.
08-30-2007, 11:32 AM
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The real issue is not necessarily engine but weight.
Audi doesn't focus on reducing weight, particularly with their quattro system.
The result is a car that is in between classes in terms of performance.
The result is a car that is in between classes in terms of performance.
08-30-2007, 11:37 AM
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Oddly, didn't they say the B8 body shell is lighter than the B7?
Overall, they don't say if the B8 will be heavier than the B7, but I am expecting it to be. But, Audi is trying somewhat to save weight.
Additionally, Quattro itself is a power sapping feature, so having it is an automatic handicap when compared to similarly weighed and powered cars.
Either way, if Audi really wanted to be the leader in performance for their cars, they'd need to go with a bit more hp and torque to overcome the weight and Quattro power loss, I think.
Additionally, Quattro itself is a power sapping feature, so having it is an automatic handicap when compared to similarly weighed and powered cars.
Either way, if Audi really wanted to be the leader in performance for their cars, they'd need to go with a bit more hp and torque to overcome the weight and Quattro power loss, I think.
08-30-2007, 12:00 PM
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It's hard to compare apples to apples, but if you look at...
MSRP start price for A4 3.2Q with 6-speed vs 335xi with 6-speed, the A4 starts at $37,250 and the 335xi starts at $40,800. Just a little over $3,550. So, is the $3,550 worth the faster 0-60? For some, of course. For others, maybe not.
08-30-2007, 12:18 PM
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I give you that Audi makes better interiors but I wouldn't call this hideous
<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/21163/lemon-poplar1.jpg"></center><p>This is not my car (mine is a 6-speed manual), but I have the same exact interior combo of lemon leather and light poplar wood trim. The ergonomics and layout is not as good as my 2006 A4 and the quality of plastics used is a notch below. One thing you have to hand it to BMW is that they give you plenty of choices. On an S-Line A4, you get black interior with aluminum trim. On a 3-Series, you can get one of 5 interior colors (lemon, terra, black, gray or beige) and a choice of 3 trims (light and dark wood plus aluminum).