A6 2016 gps issues
08-31-2015, 03:47 AM
#21
AudiWorld Super User
This thread is starting to be reminiscent of the Gulliver's Travels story where two island kingdoms went to war over which end of an egg should be cracked open first - the narrow end or the wide end. The shortest route or the fastest route. 
Do we have any takers for the "Mixed" route and does anyone even know what that is? A grand prize of a 2016 R8 goes to the first person to accurately explain how the Mixed route works. (Note: The grand prize winner will be determined and awarded at the sole discretion of the judges, that being me).
Do we have any takers for the "Mixed" route and does anyone even know what that is? A grand prize of a 2016 R8 goes to the first person to accurately explain how the Mixed route works. (Note: The grand prize winner will be determined and awarded at the sole discretion of the judges, that being me).
08-31-2015, 07:10 AM
#22
AudiWorld Super User
Leasing is fine for me. I just set a goal to stay within the mileage and expenditure limits set at the outset of the lease and I am fine with that. Perhaps you mean that you would find such steps as I take to stay in those limits very annoying (even dumb - lol), and that’s fine, we are all different.
I did not mean to and don’t think I did say that I use NAV to plot scenic trips as I go. I was just responding to your comment "I'm curious, under what circumstances would you ever choose shortest route if the shortest route is not necessarily the fastest route." I did not see that comment as relating soley to the use of NAV; if that is what you meant, then I misunderstood. My usual use of NAV is primarily as a confirmation of my planned route that usually comes from experience and perhaps a brief review of an online map. I use the NAV to see if I am staying up with the planned ETA, etc. Seldom (except in new places) do I use it to tell me what roads to take, when to exit, etc. Most pf the time I keep the NAV lady's volume at the minimum setting and just check the screen now and again to see if the ETA has changed or if there is a traffic warning. Again, we’re all different and, as my posts here indicate, I have a less than typical interest in a lot of the technology and "bells & whistles" our cars offer.
I did not mean to and don’t think I did say that I use NAV to plot scenic trips as I go. I was just responding to your comment "I'm curious, under what circumstances would you ever choose shortest route if the shortest route is not necessarily the fastest route." I did not see that comment as relating soley to the use of NAV; if that is what you meant, then I misunderstood. My usual use of NAV is primarily as a confirmation of my planned route that usually comes from experience and perhaps a brief review of an online map. I use the NAV to see if I am staying up with the planned ETA, etc. Seldom (except in new places) do I use it to tell me what roads to take, when to exit, etc. Most pf the time I keep the NAV lady's volume at the minimum setting and just check the screen now and again to see if the ETA has changed or if there is a traffic warning. Again, we’re all different and, as my posts here indicate, I have a less than typical interest in a lot of the technology and "bells & whistles" our cars offer.
08-31-2015, 09:45 AM
#23
AudiWorld Member
As to your ETA discrepancies, that is strange. My MMI is always more conservative than Google or Apple Map on my phone, it's never that far off unless there is traffic being reported on the MMI but not on the phone apps. Finally, the MMI nav does not provide a "no U turns" option (like my Garmin) which would avoid it all together.
The MMI is usually 10-15 min "quicker" than what Google maps (alerts on my phone) predicts even with varying traffic conditions. They are both in the ballpark, however, the MMI usually underestimates.
I can generally count on Google being correct, I cannot say this at all for what the MMI says. The MMI usually is overly optimistic by 5 - 10 min.
08-31-2015, 09:59 AM
#24
This thread is starting to be reminiscent of the Gulliver's Travels story where two island kingdoms went to war over which end of an egg should be cracked open first - the narrow end or the wide end. The shortest route or the fastest route.
Do we have any takers for the "Mixed" route and does anyone even know what that is? A grand prize of a 2016 R8 goes to the first person to accurately explain how the Mixed route works. (Note: The grand prize winner will be determined and awarded at the sole discretion of the judges, that being me).
Do we have any takers for the "Mixed" route and does anyone even know what that is? A grand prize of a 2016 R8 goes to the first person to accurately explain how the Mixed route works. (Note: The grand prize winner will be determined and awarded at the sole discretion of the judges, that being me).
This is not a contest entry (lol) just my take on life I guess! An R8 is too showy for me anyway.
08-31-2015, 02:16 PM
#25
AudiWorld Super User
The mixed route is when one’s mother-in-law is along for the ride and you want to get there quickly, but not having to go so fast that she starts nagging. At such times the scenic route may just lead to too much talk about the “pretty cows” and things like that, but the use of NAV will only lead to her saying “who is that woman and what is she saying.” The “mixed” part is when you “forget” her at the service area, floor the car and go wherever the hell you please with the radio blasting away so you don’t hear the cellphone ringing.
This is not a contest entry (lol) just my take on life I guess! An R8 is too showy for me anyway.
This is not a contest entry (lol) just my take on life I guess! An R8 is too showy for me anyway.
08-31-2015, 02:47 PM
#26
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
That's a reasonable description of it's purpose but still doesn't explain how it actually determines a route. For example, does it take into account how long you've been married, age of the mother in law, nag quotient, etc.? What if there are no service areas (less ikely since a portion of the trip will be scenic rather than on an interstate)? What would the reaction be with the wife? Would she require you turn around at the next exit to go back and retrieve the mother in law and how would that play into the total route estimated time of arrival? Too many questions and not enough answers.
09-07-2015, 06:14 AM
#27
Well, I just spoke to Audi support and after some research, they said that route options has been removed from MY2016 and it automatically defaults to fastest route. This is very disappointing in that this is my first Audi and this is a major issue. I drive all over and having a navigation system that is sub-par on such a car that touts the latest technology is not good. I use nav systems on all types of vehicles and this one is on the bottom of the list.
Not sure if I have any recourse but thanks for the advice.
Not sure if I have any recourse but thanks for the advice.
What I can't find is a way to enable the MMI to auto-reroute based on traffic vs. selecting "Avoid Traffic," but this is pretty minor... and I can see why in some cases it's better to allow the driver to select when to reroute.
09-07-2015, 11:17 AM
#28
AudiWorld Super User
In my 2013 A6, there is an option in Nav>Settings>Auto rerouting (traffic). I never use it because Sirius traffic is only about 50% relaible in my area. On a good day.
09-07-2015, 02:50 PM
#29
That's a different set of options that has always been available with Nav Plus. It''s for selecting alternate routes, not necessarily the fastest or shortest. What is being discussed here is separate set of options that disappeared from MY2016 for the nav to automatically determine the "Shortest", "Fastest", or "Auto" routing, now apparently defaulting to Fastest only.
What's shown on the 2016 seems adequate, and was similar to my 2012 535 options.
Thanks for the clarification!
09-07-2015, 09:44 PM
#30
AudiWorld Super User
This is not my experience. I have alerts on my phone where Google tells me when to leave and 9 out of 10 times I'll be there 5 min before my appt time.
The MMI is usually 10-15 min "quicker" than what Google maps (alerts on my phone) predicts even with varying traffic conditions. They are both in the ballpark, however, the MMI usually underestimates.
I can generally count on Google being correct, I cannot say this at all for what the MMI says. The MMI usually is overly optimistic by 5 - 10 min.
The MMI is usually 10-15 min "quicker" than what Google maps (alerts on my phone) predicts even with varying traffic conditions. They are both in the ballpark, however, the MMI usually underestimates.
I can generally count on Google being correct, I cannot say this at all for what the MMI says. The MMI usually is overly optimistic by 5 - 10 min.
As we were driving, it re-routed me around slow traffic on US-101 before we got on the PCH, cutting the ETA down to about 7:55 PM. I called the restaurant to ensure that if we arrived by 8PM, that the kitchen would still be open and they assured me that we would be fed. The ETA kept bouncing around 8PM as I was stuck behind RVs etc. on the PCH, but never later than about 8:05PM, so I was clearly optimistic that we would make it. For the last 30 miles or so I was able to get past most of the slow drivers and pick up speed. The ETA was gradually reducing and we finally arrived at the restaurant at 7:50 PM.
So, long story short, I can't complain about the system. It seems to work as advertised and Sirius Traffic at least in my area is mostly accurate. The ETA takes the current traffic situation into account and constantly adjusts. This is the older MMI 3G+ running the latest firmware and updated map database. I was always under the impression that the ETA is pretty much on the dot, but this weekend proved that it really is on the dot even on a 100+ miles road trip on mostly 2-lane highways with very little opportunities to pass and make up time.
Last edited by superswiss; 09-07-2015 at 09:46 PM.