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Old 11-24-2013, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GTA_Driver
That would be the case with locking differentials. Quattro uses open differentials and torque is distributed with the help of the ABS system which applies brakes selectively to the spinning wheel so power can be transferred away from it to other wheels that have traction.

When an axle brakes, no amount of wheel braking will prevent that axle from spinning.
won't a torsen interaxle differential apportion some torque to the rear with a broken front axle?
Apparently not…
The Torsen (from Torque Sensing) works as an open differential when the amount of torque going to each wheel is equal. As soon as one wheel starts to lose traction, the difference in torque causes the gears in the Torsen differential to bind together. The design of the gears in the differential determines the torque bias ratio. For instance, if a particular Torsen differential is designed with a 5:1 bias ratio, it is capable of applying up to five times more torque to the wheel that has good traction.
These devices are often used in high-performance all-wheel-drive vehicles. Like the viscous coupling, they are often used to transfer power between the front and rear wheels. In this application, the Torsen is superior to the viscous coupling because it transfers torque to the stable wheels before the actual slipping occurs.
However, if one set of wheels loses traction completely, the Torsen differential will be unable to supply any torque to the other set of wheels. The bias ratio determines how much torque can be transferred, and five times zero is zero.

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Originally Posted by SloopJohnB@mac.com
won't a torsen interaxle differential apportion some torque to the rear with a broken front axle?
Apparently not…
Yup. Think of it like this: Torsen is a torque multiplier. When you have zero traction (or mechanical failure) at one corner, you are multiplying by zero (we all know what that equates to).

The difference with mechanical failure is that you lose the ability of EDL to apply the brake and "trick" torsen into seeing some "traction" at the spinning corner.
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Originally Posted by SloopJohnB@mac.com
Hard to say…anything broken would normally have some sound, even a functioning gearbox has some gear noise/sound…it's the changes you're looking for. A broken transmission input shaft would still make some noise different. It has to be in the clutch or gearbox if you're not getting any output torque at either front or rear wheels…if a front axle is broken you should still get some torque at the rear through the torsen interaxle diff.

Looking more and more like you'll have to drop the transmission and see what's what.
My guess is that the bolts backed out of the flange on the CV last touched. That would also account for the lack of noise. ;-)
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Originally Posted by 4Driver4
Yup. Think of it like this: Torsen is a torque multiplier. When you have zero traction (or mechanical failure) at one corner, you are multiplying by zero (we all know what that equates to).

The difference with mechanical failure is that you lose the ability of EDL to apply the brake and "trick" torsen into seeing some "traction" at the spinning corner.
Another good reason for LSD…like a positraction or DetroitLocker.
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