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Old 08-28-2002, 06:14 AM
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Default And the answer is...(warning - 5 pictures)

"What is - there's something else bad also". In an ongoing attempt to find the source of a buzzing/scream (I have used many terms) related to heavy throttle input >/=~4K RPM, here's the result of checking the TBB for tears and the resulting elimination of my "gas passing" or "could play this like a trumpet" noise.

The tear was well hidden.
<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/368/tbb1.jpg">

&lt;big sigh of relief&gt; Thank you, thank you, thank you.
<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/368/tbb2.jpg">
<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/368/tbb3.jpg">

Same place many find the tear.
<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/368/tbb4.jpg">

And something new (to me) on the opposite side.
<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/368/tbb5.jpg">

Although this did remedy one symptom, I still have something else causing the buzz/scream. I found a very slight amount of oil in the left turbo line (right turbo if facing the front of the engine). I called my service writer who asked some techs. They told him they see that most of the time on the left turbo, and it was normal (?). When I saw it, I just said "breaking turbo", but I'm up in the air about that now. The dealer gets to check it all out in the 4th, so we'll see then.

I popped a clip of some kind off when I pulled the left large plastic riser pipe out of the TBB. It's a channel about 3" long, 1/4 " wide, and 3/8" high. It has the male side of a clip on both ends and it appears a wire or tube may rest in it. Any ideas where it came from? Hate it when I end up with extra parts.
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Old 08-28-2002, 06:25 AM
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Default Congrats on your efforts, those tears are often hard to spot without close inspection..

As far as your question about the part... can you post a pic and I will get under the hood and see if my 01 has same part (there are differences)to let you know where it came from.
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Default I upgraded the TBB/fhose/BPV's my self. Worth the $300 or so just not to have to worry about it. (m

Samco on the TBB, 110's on the BPV, and some damn expensive F-hose - I can't remmeber from where
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I have changed 3 TBB's and seen 2 others all torn same place..
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Your doc helped. If I can't find it in the service manual I'll take a picture of it. tks.
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I definitely will upgrade the TBB and will check Samco. Put 710Ns in recently.
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Default Samco TBB or AMS kevlar taped "T" TBB

had the AMS TBB on for a bit and was fine. Cost is $89 with their special spring clamps.

Or you can go high end and get the APR Bi-pipe at ~$350.
You maybe be able to find a deal on a used APR Bi-pipe since some cars are being sold and they are reverting back to stock form. Watch the adds!! : )
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Does that Bi-pipe add vibration/noise?
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Default Just pray you don't have CONDOMS with the same "issue"!!

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Welllll, yeeaaaaa :-)


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