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Old 04-07-2000, 11:57 PM
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Default AoA confuses entire A6 lineup (close cousin to topic below)

Not that I mind much.

Car magazine (British) has done a review of the S6 Avant now. Their results with the TIP:

0-60mph (not 62mph) 6.8 secs. (6.7 for sedan)

The 6-speed is supposed to be 0.5 secs faster, so lets say 6.2 for sedan.

I guess Audi didn't shorten the rear end enough to get acceleration on the S6. And all this after initial word was the car was 0.4 secs faster than the 4.2, now it falls to 0.2?

Now, lets run down the 0-60 times for US A6's

car (price) TIP (secs)/stick (secs)
S6 (~$65K): 6.7/6.2
A6 4.2 ($50K): 6.8/N.A.
A6 2.7T ($40K): 6.6/6.0
A6 2.7T (Euro 235HP tune) ~7.6/~7.0
A6 2.8 ($35K): ~8.5/~8.0

Now, doesn't one of these data points seem out of place?

I have no idea why Audi Germany allowed AoA to bump the 2.7T up to 250HP and make it the fastest A6 BAR NONE.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad, as an owner of a US 2.7T. But it doesn't make sense. Perhaps AoA will be vindicated when the new 530i comes out and the US 2.7T matches up, but the Euro one doesn't.

Finally, the S6 runs 340HP/310 ft-lbs through the same TIP tranny us 2.7T folks have, so looks like you can pretty much chip your 2.7T TIP up to 1.0 bar if you want. I'm conflicted now about whether to chip or not.
Old 04-08-2000, 02:21 AM
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I though the S-Cars were supposed to be to Audi what the M/Dinan is to BMW. The S6 needs more power, why not buy the reg 4.2? Same performance. Audi has to know the lil mess they made.
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Default Wrong.

Audi AG is to BMW AG what
MTM is to Dinan and what
Audi Sport is to ///M Power.

Audi Sport designs cars that have added suspension, tyre, trim, etc.

MTM designs cars that have all of what the Audi Sport designs have, but also have added power. Hence, MTM produces the 300+ hp TT's, the 400+ hp A6's, etc.

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Default Confusing yes, but in reality...

the S, M, & AMG badges are company initiatives to incorporate aftermarket tuning to company models. Audi has taken pretty much the same approach as the others. As Cameron mentions when you discuss MTM or Dinan or Brabus you're now talking about non-company products and initiatives. Remember, divisions such as AMG and BMW's M were once outside or aftermarket type firms and or divisions.
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Default Batting 500 srosie

AMG started as an independent company owned and run by Hans Werner Aufrecht, an ex-Mercedes engineer. Effective 1. Januar 1999, 51% of AMG was purchased by the Mercedes-Benz unit of DaimlerChrsyler. On 31. December 2001 Mercedes will assume control of an additional 24.1 percent. Aufrecht will hold he remainder of AMG (which was renamed Mercedes-AMG GmbH on 1 Jan. '99) through 1 January 2009. After that the whole enchilada goes to Mercedes.

BMW M (M-Technik GmbH) is now and always has been a wholly owned subsidiary of BMW AG.

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Default You are correct sir!

Should have phrased it that: each manufacturer applied racing sourced modifications to enhance stock models either through internal development or acquisition.
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Default How are you getting CAR so quick to US?

I usually wait until 22-25th of the month for it to appear, even though it gets published in the UK early in the month.
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I buy it off the newsstand at a local bookstore. Only one store in town seems to carry it.

It's great, there's an article in the front that says the the big auto company acquisitions are over now. And that, for example, there's no way FIAT could be bought since it is family owned.

Which is funny since this issue was apparently written before both the BMW sell-off (although they knew it was coming) and the GM-FIAT deal.
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