Flushing brake system, bleeding master cylinder and ABS pump (w/ ESP)
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When I disassembled my right rear caliper I lost a lot of fluid and I think air got into the master from the top. After a lot of bleeding with a pressure bleeder and by hand, but I've still got a spongy pedal. I'm aware of how to use VAG COM basic settings to bleed the ABS pump, but I'm not aware of any special procedures for the ESP, and I don't know how to bleed the master cylinder. Could anybody make/find me a brief writeup on the job?
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When I disassembled my right rear caliper I lost a lot of fluid and I think air got into the master from the top. After a lot of bleeding with a pressure bleeder and by hand, but I've still got a spongy pedal. I'm aware of how to use VAG COM basic settings to bleed the ABS pump, but I'm not aware of any special procedures for the ESP, and I don't know how to bleed the master cylinder. Could anybody make/find me a brief writeup on the job?
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I pressure bled all four corners. My friend the tech also operated the abs pump in basic settings, but I don't think he went through the whole procedure, as I did it on my Golf last night and don't remember seeing him do some of the things.
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ive bleed the brakes properly without operating the abs pump. Ive read its just to flush out the old fluid (ie if you didnt drain the whole system).
I think you need to bleed more.
I think you need to bleed more.
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the abs pump is also the ESP pump - so its the same. Its very hard to get air into the ABS system, btu if you do, its also hard to get it out. According to Audi, you need over 27 psi (working from memory) - which i NEVER use.
Bleeding the master occurs automatically when you pressure bleed the wheels.
Now, a i recall you have a 6-speed. Did you also bleed the clutch?
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Bleeding the master occurs automatically when you pressure bleed the wheels.
Now, a i recall you have a 6-speed. Did you also bleed the clutch?
G
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Well, hen i ran the master dry ( don't ask and i won't tell) i had to use a combo method - manual bleeding with pressure simultaneously applied.
It took many, many passes to get the deep-down air out. And about 2 liters of fluid. Live and learn. Always have a full pressure bleeder tank!
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It took many, many passes to get the deep-down air out. And about 2 liters of fluid. Live and learn. Always have a full pressure bleeder tank!
G
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Clutch is fine. Reservoir was bone dry though so enough of the system was drained that it all needed bled. Additionally, I've heard it's a good idea to replace old fluid, to include the stuff in the abs. Anybody know the procedure?
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i just went through all this recently . had you r exact symptom , ran the system dry.. had a spongy pedal for a while after bleeeding teice .. after I went out on an icy day and let the abs do her thing the pedal is fine now .. i guess if it runs dry you can trap an air pocket .. on my second bleed a did get aditional small bubbles .. next time i will do the initial bleed with chaeap brake fluid and save my superblue for the last bleed .. lesson learned ..