Seattle Scott

<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/12414/valve2.jpg"></center><p>Anybody have good or bad comments?<ul><li><a href="http://www.fumotovalve.com/">Oil Drain Valve</a></li></ul>

urS4guy

I recently had a complete engine rebuild on my 93 urS4. I had the Fumoto valve installed at the same time. 3 oil changes later at 500, 1500, and 2500 miles and I can only sing the praises for this wonderful mod. It just works great.

April

if pan strikes anything.

mikef4.2

on some autocross cars I had, but I took them off as they did have the potential of being smacked off. They solve a problem that does not exist. Also, the pan will not drain completely. The valve is threaded up into the pan, leaving the pan with contaminated oil the same distance that it is inserted into the pan. Imagine a bathtub with a pipe threaded up the drain hole from the bottom, the tub will only drain down as far as the top of the pipe.

Seattle Scott

protect the release mechanism and keep things clean.

If I hit the bottom of the engine shield hard enough to smack the valve I'm putting my faith in idiot lights and Slick 50 tests, i.e. most engines run without oil just fine for little tiny while.

Chances are after a smack hard enough to break the valve I'd be shutting down and having a look around anyway.

Seattle Scott

Could you quantify this a little better? Twice as long? All other conditions the same, oil temp, etc

Finman

drain the oil using the valve as designed, then remove the valve and see how much oil comes out.
Even using the drain plug, after the initial drain there is always some left if you plugged it and drained again 10 minutes later. If this thing works the way they claim, it should give similar performance.
Nice idea.

mikef4.2

towards the end of the drain cycle. It was a lot slower. And as April first stated, depending on how the drain is positioned, it became a hazard if stuck from under the car. If you think about it, the whole notion is kind of silly, I mean is changing your oil a timed event? No, I let as much of the oil drain as possible. Besides, how many fastners do you have to undo to get the belly pan off your car? Six? Eight? What is one more? The oil drain plug should not be the subject of concern. Nothing significant is gained by this device, at least in my experience. Kind of a neat concept and it was appealing to me at the time. But in the long run, it does not ADD anything to the experience of changing the oil. I kind of like holding the drain plug in my hand with a shop towel, whilst I contemplate how to get the oil filter off without having oil run down my arm and back! Save your money on this device and buy a case of beer to help refresh you, as you change your oil.

mikef4.2

any benefit to the changing oil chore. Really, it did not save time, it drained slower, your hands still get dirty. Lets look at the claims one by one.
ONE TOUCH OPERATION - Isn't a wrench and turn of the plug one hand? So what?
REDUCES TIME AND EXPENSE - It does drain slower, a lot slower, and what expense, the crush washer the parts guys throws into the filter box for free?
ELIMINATES STRIPPED THREAD - I have never stripped an oil pan plug, besides, their valve lever as shown in the picture is placed random as to where it ends when you tighten it. So you either have to over tighten or under tighten to have the lever as shown in the picture.
NO MORE CONTACT WITH HOT OIL - If done right, you don't get a lot of contact, besides, you still have to deal with the filter and the oil you just drained. Really, do you think you can change your oil without getting oil on you? Dream on, (unless you have someone else do it.)
NO MORE MESSY HANDS - Really....See above.
EASY INSTALLATION - It is.

Bollinger

I love that response.

Seriously though, we can put a man on the Moon. Can't we figure out how to make an oil filter that can be removed without blasting oil all over everything? I would think it was possible, it must not be a priority.