So a BMW salesdude is trying to size me up and ...
03-25-2002, 10:01 AM
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So a BMW salesdude is trying to size me up and ...
he asks what I'm driving. Audi A6, sez I. He takes a beat and says "our real competition is Mercedes."
Ah yes, that reknowned choice of sporting drivers everywhere! And this is from a combo BMW/Audi dealership.
I guess I've gotten spoiled, but during my test drive of a 525i I'm impressed by the power but annoyed at the jiggling ride and wind noise. It was one of those infamous "exec demo" cars that was lightly detailed and reeked of ciggie smoke. I can't believe they don't tell their reps to cool it with stinking up cars that will shortly be sold!
Oh, and I noticed a guy and his family testdriving a used 750 that had a big-*** BMW memo on the window proclaiming that this particular car was a "goodwill buyback." They should have just used LEMON, it takes less space!
Ah yes, that reknowned choice of sporting drivers everywhere! And this is from a combo BMW/Audi dealership.
I guess I've gotten spoiled, but during my test drive of a 525i I'm impressed by the power but annoyed at the jiggling ride and wind noise. It was one of those infamous "exec demo" cars that was lightly detailed and reeked of ciggie smoke. I can't believe they don't tell their reps to cool it with stinking up cars that will shortly be sold!
Oh, and I noticed a guy and his family testdriving a used 750 that had a big-*** BMW memo on the window proclaiming that this particular car was a "goodwill buyback." They should have just used LEMON, it takes less space!
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Well, when it comes to numbers MB and BMW are allot closer to...
each other than Audi. Especially the E vs 5 and S vs 7. Audi is gaining, but still behind. The A8 seems the weak sister in the Audi model line up and that's where, imho Audi next needs to step it up. Sport-wise Audi has made great strides, but the big sedans are still dominated by MB and BMW.
I still dislike the new 7 rear.
I still dislike the new 7 rear.
03-25-2002, 10:13 AM
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Well, MB IS there real competition...
These things are status-symbols to most...therefore MB and BMW are competitors...not Audi...Audis are just pimped up VWs in most people's minds (who know Audi and VW are related), in other's minds, Audis are either unknown or "sudden unintended acclerators"!
You were IMPRESSED by the power of a 525?! Really, I find them painfully and annoyingly underpowered. Cigarette smoke, on the other hand, in enticing
I'm amazed they had a sticker on a 750 stating it was a "goodwill buyback"...astounding!
You were IMPRESSED by the power of a 525?! Really, I find them painfully and annoyingly underpowered. Cigarette smoke, on the other hand, in enticing
I'm amazed they had a sticker on a 750 stating it was a "goodwill buyback"...astounding!
03-25-2002, 10:17 AM
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The warning is obviously a CYA move
which makes sense legally, but who on earth would buy a car knowing that? And this poor guy seemed really interested, I was so tempted to put my life at risk and jump between him and his salesdude and tell him to run like the wind. But that would be like getting between a pit bull and his din-din.
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03-25-2002, 10:37 AM
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I cannot agree in any way that the A8 is the "weak sister"...that is, unless...
you mean purely in sales figures. IMO, the A8 is good competition for the 740i, but not quite up to the technologic "wizardly" of the new 745i, but that will be addressed in approximately one year.
The A8, on the other hand, easily defeats the S-class, which to me, is a big disappointment. Cheap finish materials on the inside and a big wallowing ride are not sporting in any way. The A8 is a much finer luxury sedan. Perhaps not with as many bells and whistles (reclining rear seats) as the MB, but also comes in a good $15-25k lower priced!!! The MB S430 and S500 are not sporting sedans...they are luxury sedans, pure and simple. The S55 is another topic and is also in another price-class ($100k). The S8 is good competition for the S55, in a way, and comes in a good $25k cheaper. The S8 is a much better sports sedan than a 740i, but I cannot comment on the 745i since I have yet to drive it.
Dominated by BMW and MB, yes...but that is purely numbers, not quality or sportiness. And, that is NOT gonna change anytime soon.
The A8, on the other hand, easily defeats the S-class, which to me, is a big disappointment. Cheap finish materials on the inside and a big wallowing ride are not sporting in any way. The A8 is a much finer luxury sedan. Perhaps not with as many bells and whistles (reclining rear seats) as the MB, but also comes in a good $15-25k lower priced!!! The MB S430 and S500 are not sporting sedans...they are luxury sedans, pure and simple. The S55 is another topic and is also in another price-class ($100k). The S8 is good competition for the S55, in a way, and comes in a good $25k cheaper. The S8 is a much better sports sedan than a 740i, but I cannot comment on the 745i since I have yet to drive it.
Dominated by BMW and MB, yes...but that is purely numbers, not quality or sportiness. And, that is NOT gonna change anytime soon.
