Deal on torque converter
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Also, this deal is real. You can order through Audi as well as VW. I called the the dealer parts guy - they get a monthly printout of older parts stock VW/Audi is trying to dispense with. Audi can order only parts that fit Audi. Same for VW. Many of the parts fit both so they can be ordered by either. My parts guy checked the warehouse in NJ and sure enough there were 2 torque converters in stock for $199. He ordered me one - should be here tomorrow. Unbelievable - paid over $1250 for the converter on my C5.
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Your tranny code is on the tranny plate too if you have access to it. My Audi dealer parts guy was able to give me the code with my VIN.
Also, this deal is real. You can order through Audi as well as VW. I called the the dealer parts guy - they get a monthly printout of older parts stock VW/Audi is trying to dispense with. Audi can order only parts that fit Audi. Same for VW. Many of the parts fit both so they can be ordered by either. My parts guy checked the warehouse in NJ and sure enough there were 2 torque converters in stock for $199. He ordered me one - should be here tomorrow. Unbelievable - paid over $1250 for the converter on my C5.
Also, this deal is real. You can order through Audi as well as VW. I called the the dealer parts guy - they get a monthly printout of older parts stock VW/Audi is trying to dispense with. Audi can order only parts that fit Audi. Same for VW. Many of the parts fit both so they can be ordered by either. My parts guy checked the warehouse in NJ and sure enough there were 2 torque converters in stock for $199. He ordered me one - should be here tomorrow. Unbelievable - paid over $1250 for the converter on my C5.
I ordered one also but I don't think it's the correct one for my car. My tranny is HLL. Would it fit anyway? I'm wondering what the difference is...if its physically different or just has a different stall speed
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Why are you replacing the engine? Did it puke the timing components?
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I was told by audi that for transmission HLL i needed the letter "R" torque converter. ETKA shows the "M" version fitting only 3.2's as far as I can tell. I wonder if there is really any differences in it? Wish I could get a concrete answer as I already have the M version in hand. I did get quote $249.99 for a rebuild at "Precision of New Hampton, www.gopnh.com " which is what I might just do to be safe.
I did submit a question at the ZF transmission's help desk asking for some confirmation...maybe they will have an answer for me
Last edited by Jimingle10; 03-10-2014 at 01:41 AM.
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Precision is where I'm sending my converter as well. Prices reasonable, warrantee is OK, although not what it would be if done at a 'regular' transmission shop.
I'm currently in the middle of my timing adventure. Sending the heads out to be resurfaced. All timing components are due in today. Still trying to figure out the best place to send the fuel injectors for cleaning and refurbishment.
How many miles on your car? Mine had 175k when the passenger side cam tensioner shed its plastic, and the chain carried it directly to the exhaust sprocket, causing it to skip a tooth.
I have pictures posted on one of the threads here. I suspect you will find a nearly identical failure mode.
Looking at the newer FSI versions of the 4.2, they have significantly revised the chain system, likely resulting in better reliability.
-Darryl
I'm currently in the middle of my timing adventure. Sending the heads out to be resurfaced. All timing components are due in today. Still trying to figure out the best place to send the fuel injectors for cleaning and refurbishment.
How many miles on your car? Mine had 175k when the passenger side cam tensioner shed its plastic, and the chain carried it directly to the exhaust sprocket, causing it to skip a tooth.
I have pictures posted on one of the threads here. I suspect you will find a nearly identical failure mode.
Looking at the newer FSI versions of the 4.2, they have significantly revised the chain system, likely resulting in better reliability.
-Darryl
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Just a heads up: You might be able to tell if there's a timing problem simply by pulling the valve covers, and verifying that the cams line up properly at the front of the engine. In my case, the passenger side exhaust cam was not lining up with the other three. If you've seen pictures, you probably know what I'm talking about. There's slots in the cams for a timing setup bar.
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M to R, R being the latest revised version and M being 5 back.
What I'm say is higher the lettering the newer revised version,
lower the older the version is(A-Z).
Looks like your tech's don't know or should I say they shouldn't be trusted.
Hope that helps.
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For the record, they are not the 'SAME'
09L-323-571-M is superseded by 09L-323-571-Q
The T/C for my 4.2 (HLL) is physically a bit beefier. The current superseded T/C for my car is 09L-323-571-R
That being said, it will bolt up. I'm too skeptical about it I can't find any application of 09L-323-571-M or 09L-323-571-Q with a v8 motor. I'm opting to have mine rebuilt at Precision and re-sell this converter. If I could have found an application of it in like an S4 I would have thrown it in there but not looking to have T/C failure in the near future.
**EDIT**
The shipping time to Precision of New Hampton was too long and too expensive to overnight, they suggested a shop local to me they deal with. Turns out this place is only 15 min from me. Similar pricing and they have cores in stock whereas Precision didn't. http://www.transtar1.com/default.asp
09L-323-571-M is superseded by 09L-323-571-Q
The T/C for my 4.2 (HLL) is physically a bit beefier. The current superseded T/C for my car is 09L-323-571-R
That being said, it will bolt up. I'm too skeptical about it I can't find any application of 09L-323-571-M or 09L-323-571-Q with a v8 motor. I'm opting to have mine rebuilt at Precision and re-sell this converter. If I could have found an application of it in like an S4 I would have thrown it in there but not looking to have T/C failure in the near future.
**EDIT**
The shipping time to Precision of New Hampton was too long and too expensive to overnight, they suggested a shop local to me they deal with. Turns out this place is only 15 min from me. Similar pricing and they have cores in stock whereas Precision didn't. http://www.transtar1.com/default.asp
Last edited by Jimingle10; 03-20-2014 at 01:27 PM.