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Old 06-19-2011, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohji
Plus, Audi doesn't want to cannibalize the sales of its other models, so it leaves premium options like the air suspension and comfort seats out to entice people towards the A8, and it leaves out the active rear differential and DSG to lure buyers to the future S7.
By the way, the sports rear diff on the A8 (which should be the same as the euro spec A7) is killer.
Old 06-19-2011, 06:04 PM
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I think part of the reason too is simple marketing. Due to a variety of reasons, vehicle prices here in the US are much lower than in Europe/Australia/China etc and so cars like the A7 are available to a larger audience than in some other countries. Since the market here is so competitive, Audi likely wants to offer cars at an attractive base price to stand out against established rivals like MB and BMW. Limiting options limits the maximum price of the car and lets reviews say things like "a fully optioned A7 comes in $10k cheaper than a loaded CLS." Plus, Audi doesn't want to cannibalize the sales of its other models, so it leaves premium options like the air suspension and comfort seats out to entice people towards the A8, and it leaves out the active rear differential and DSG to lure buyers to the future S7. Nowadays, you also sometimes need extra perks to entice some people to go for the less fuel efficient, higher-performing models, even in the upper end of the luxury segment...

I'm sure there is a whole army of Audi marketing experts and actuaries who have analyzed US buying preferences and have figured out how to position their products to extract the most money from US car buyers. I too wish we had more options here, but I'll settle for what we were given. I was initially bummed about not having more customizable seats and no air suspension, but after reading all the problems some people have had with the AIRMATIC suspension on the CLS, I realized that sometimes less is more...
First, if a fully optioned Audi vs. a fully optioned BWW or MB isn't equally equipped, what good is it to write or say "it's $10K cheaper"? Yes, it's a simplistic review statement that's too often misused but I prefer accuracy in these types of statements and always fact-check them!

Second, isn't it about time that Audi NOT focus so much on undercutting price and, instead, focus on the product and its quality, design, and engineering? I know they want to increase sales volume in the U.S. but limiting option availability to "entice" customers to spend upwards of $20-30K to move up to an A8/A8L is a bit of a stretch. Is it worth losing any sales of truly loaded A7's in the U.S.?
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Originally Posted by gb4.2
First, if a fully optioned Audi vs. a fully optioned BWW or MB isn't equally equipped, what good is it to write or say "it's $10K cheaper"? Yes, it's a simplistic review statement that's too often misused but I prefer accuracy in these types of statements and always fact-check them!

Second, isn't it about time that Audi NOT focus so much on undercutting price and, instead, focus on the product and its quality, design, and engineering? I know they want to increase sales volume in the U.S. but limiting option availability to "entice" customers to spend upwards of $20-30K to move up to an A8/A8L is a bit of a stretch. Is it worth losing any sales of truly loaded A7's in the U.S.?
I'm with you, but unfortunately neither of us works for Audi.

Here is a quote from the recent Motor Trend review. Sadly, this appears to be how Audi wishes to function in the US.

I called Audi and read them a Little League version of the riot act. Why can U.S. consumers spend $20,000 on electronic options -- in the case of our tester, $6330 for the Prestige package, $5800 for the Innovation package, and an "are you kidding me?" $5900 for the Bang and Olufsen stereo, plus another $1500 for 20-inch wheels -- but they can't spend the same amount on actual, mechanical performance upgrades like the aforementioned dual-clutch or torque vectoring differential? Predictably, A6, A7, and A8 product specialist Anthony Foulk started telling me everything but the truth. "We try to optimize each car to their market." "In Europe it's a wide-open ordering bank -- an A6 can easily be 100,000 Euros." and my favorite, "Our mission here is to bring the best car at the best value that the customer actually wants."

So, I continued, Americans don't want a car with air suspension or a dual-clutch or a performance-enhancing rear end? Finally Foulk caved. "This isn't the only A7 that will come to the U.S. -- it's the not the sportiest in our lineup." Not that it's any great secret, but he's talking about the S7, which will most likely come packing Audi's new, soon-to-be-released (and shared with Bentley) 4.0-liter twin-turbo V-8 as well as a dual-clutch tranny, torque-vectoring rear end and (maybe) air suspension.


So, to me that reads like Audi code for "If you want that stuff, pony up the extra bucks and get the S7." I imagine the only reason they get away with it is that it works -- Americans like the high-end, and I guess they need to offer more than just a more powerful engine to get people to spend the extra bucks on an S7...

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html
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Same reason has me looking at the MB550CLS and the revised XF Supercharged. (I don't care for the 5 series so BMW is not an option for me). Both the MB and the Jag have excellent seats (2012 XF Supercharged will have the seats from the 2011 XFR as an option). The MB has a $600 option of "active multicontour driver seat featuring adjustable lumbar supports, side bolsters and shoulder supports, for custom-tailored support. A massage feature helps prevent fatigue on longer drives. Active side bolsters can be set to automatically increase lateral support in cornering maneuvers, or even in the event of a potential accident."
For $600! What is Audi playing at?
This is also available on the E Class
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