1999 A8 Tranny Problem - Is it junk?
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1999 A8 Tranny Problem - Is it junk?
Car has 123k on it. For about 30k miles, the trans has always switched between the torque converter locking / unlocking at slow speeds (30-40mph) when going up any kind of grade, event slight grades. But, other than that, no trans problems. The fix is to move to Tiptronic mode and shift down to 3rd or 4th gear, than the torque converter stays either locked or unlocked.
So, coming home the other day, I slowed from 55 to 35 for a 30 zone. There was a slight grade, and the car began its usual locking / unlocking routine. I used the tiptronic to shift to 3rd, and all was well. Then I began to gradually accelerate, and noticed the tach just revved up - but no acceleration. I moved trans back to "Drive" and tried again. Nothing, but the car slammed into limp home mode and all gear position indicators lit up. I pulled into a plaza and tried restarting car. Putting trans in drive, I attempted to go and the car just revved, did nothing, and abruptly slammed into 4th and all gear positions lit on the dash again. Aside from it being VERY sluggish getting moving, it made it another 15 or 20 miles home.
The next day, it was the same behavior. Previously I had it do something similar to me - although it would initially take off in drive and then slam into limp mode in that case - and the problem was the one of the two electronic trans plugs - I was able to clean and cured the problem for at least 10k miles. Fluid and filter was changed by a very reputable Audi indie probably 5-6k ago.
So, of course I tried cleaning and resetting the plugs (several times) and no dice. Tried clearing non-existent engine codes with my OBDII scanner - no change. The question - is the trans junk? Is it the torque converter? Reverse seems to work fine, by the way.
So, coming home the other day, I slowed from 55 to 35 for a 30 zone. There was a slight grade, and the car began its usual locking / unlocking routine. I used the tiptronic to shift to 3rd, and all was well. Then I began to gradually accelerate, and noticed the tach just revved up - but no acceleration. I moved trans back to "Drive" and tried again. Nothing, but the car slammed into limp home mode and all gear position indicators lit up. I pulled into a plaza and tried restarting car. Putting trans in drive, I attempted to go and the car just revved, did nothing, and abruptly slammed into 4th and all gear positions lit on the dash again. Aside from it being VERY sluggish getting moving, it made it another 15 or 20 miles home.
The next day, it was the same behavior. Previously I had it do something similar to me - although it would initially take off in drive and then slam into limp mode in that case - and the problem was the one of the two electronic trans plugs - I was able to clean and cured the problem for at least 10k miles. Fluid and filter was changed by a very reputable Audi indie probably 5-6k ago.
So, of course I tried cleaning and resetting the plugs (several times) and no dice. Tried clearing non-existent engine codes with my OBDII scanner - no change. The question - is the trans junk? Is it the torque converter? Reverse seems to work fine, by the way.
#2
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If OK, then check atf level...the correct way >> Car dead level, atf at "bath water temp" after just warming from stone cold.
http://www.audipages.com/Tech_Articl...servicing.html
Nothing could carry less assurance to me than the phrase "very reputable Audi indie". I could write a book of stupid mistakes made by this self appointed group.
#3
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OK, I'll check the fluid level as you specify. Connections are definitely clean / OK. I pulled them off, cleaned, and reset probably 5 times. As for the Audi indie, more specifically he specializes in German car repair and vintage European car restoration. We have used him for 10 years servicing our Benzes or Audis. Before going into business for himself he was a certified Mercedes-Benz Master tech with all the awards and certs clearly visible on his office wall. He is also a one-man shop, so you know exactly who is working on your vehicle. His garage is large and very clean. He is quite meticulous with his work, and charges an expensive but fair rate. His policy is to ONLY use genuine or OEM supplier parts - no aftermarket. Over the years, the constant and ever-changing line of Mercedes-Benzes, Audis, Porsches, BMW's, Rolls-Royces, Bentley's, Jaguars, and even Ferraris serve to inform that most customers seem to be as satisfied as us.
That being said, I'm considering replacing this transmission myself with a used unit. Silverd2, if I may, how many miles on your D2 and have you had any trans problems? Can a '97 transmission be used in our '99, sans the Tiptronic function?
That being said, I'm considering replacing this transmission myself with a used unit. Silverd2, if I may, how many miles on your D2 and have you had any trans problems? Can a '97 transmission be used in our '99, sans the Tiptronic function?
#4
why?
You have been driving on bad torque converter for 30K miles in a car with a crippled driving experience.
Why did you bother changing the fluid and filter 5K miles ago?
Why did you bother changing the fluid and filter 5K miles ago?
Before making any decision, I'd check for clean elec connections again.
If OK, then check atf level...the correct way >> Car dead level, atf at "bath water temp" after just warming from stone cold.
http://www.audipages.com/Tech_Articl...servicing.html
Nothing could carry less assurance to me than the phrase "very reputable Audi indie". I could write a book of stupid mistakes made by this self appointed group.
If OK, then check atf level...the correct way >> Car dead level, atf at "bath water temp" after just warming from stone cold.
http://www.audipages.com/Tech_Articl...servicing.html
Nothing could carry less assurance to me than the phrase "very reputable Audi indie". I could write a book of stupid mistakes made by this self appointed group.
#5
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The TC issue was basically minor...95% of all driving in the car was unaffected. Driving experience was marginally affected. Not everyone wants to spend big $$ until a problem ultimately becomes serious. There was no cost savings here to address this issue sooner...
#6
Unfortunately you need a rebuild or another good trans. Your clutch A basket is broken.
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