A8 / S8 (D2 Platform) Discussion Discussion forum for the D2 Audi A8 and S8 produced from 1994-2002
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

After gearbox swap - front end creaking like old boat!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-06-2011, 10:24 AM
  #1  
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
 
mattsimis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Posts: 234
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default After gearbox swap - front end creaking like old boat!

Got the car (1998 S8) back from the gearbox swap 2 days ago. That aspect is ok (need to get those diff mount bushing as per the other thread, thanks SilverD2).. however now I get a very audible creaking from the front left wheel area.

I think its suspension struts (but rather it wasnt!):

- Creaks when braking (straight or steering)
- Noise when steering at low speed, audible externally in carparks
- No noise when pushing down on it stationary (ie bounce test)
- Already replaced the lower control arms
- When they were replacing the box, they removed the subframe and left the wheels/suspension hanging somewhat unsupported..
- I already suspected it bottoms out a bit too easy, I think it may be even "softer" now, very little rebound anyhow


I have a regulatory national car test tomorrow, gonna fail spectacularly!
Old 06-06-2011, 11:21 AM
  #2  
AudiWorld Super User
 
tozoM8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,706
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

They tighten the suspension on the lift. It has to be on the ground to do it.
Old 06-06-2011, 02:50 PM
  #3  
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
 
mattsimis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Posts: 234
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Which part of the suspension? I re-seated the lower arms already.
Old 06-06-2011, 07:09 PM
  #4  
AudiWorld Super User
 
tozoM8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,706
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

The inner part of the lower control arms. The car has to be on the ground, loosen the bolts, move the car up/down then tighten the bolts.
Old 06-07-2011, 03:04 AM
  #5  
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
 
mattsimis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Posts: 234
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Tried again

I loosened them, bounced the car up and down and tightened them back. Seemed ok for about 10min of driving, then got progressively louder and more annoying. Went to the National Car test, the tester said it failed on one of the upper arms (though oddly the other side). Can upper arms make this noise too (I only changed lowers)?

The suspension shocks themselves passed the test perfectly.
Old 06-07-2011, 03:39 AM
  #6  
AudiWorld Senior Member
 
audi01a6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: sunny florida
Posts: 643
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

common issue with the upper control arm bushings,replaced both sides,that should help,what are the miles on audi?
Old 06-07-2011, 05:40 AM
  #7  
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
 
mattsimis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Posts: 234
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

175k miles but no service history. I already suspected arms needed to be done, but hadnt planned on changing uppers this week.
Old 06-07-2011, 05:57 PM
  #8  
AudiWorld Super User
 
tozoM8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,706
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Spray some WD40 on them one at the time. whet it gets quiet, you found the problem.
Old 06-14-2011, 12:27 AM
  #9  
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
 
mattsimis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Posts: 234
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

As an update I changed both upper control arms on both sides = no change.
Sprayed Lubricant as per Tozo's suggestion = no change.
Reseated all the lower control arms = no change.


Its really loud now, on 3/4 turns left or right, stationary or braking.
Going to drop by the garage later today and get it on the ramp. They tell me all they removed in that area is the lower control arms, didnt touch steering or anything else relevant. I have 2x Tierod ends I could put in, but didnt want to "add" to the changed parts list before having an idea of whats the cause of the noise is.

Showed it to a few people so far, for such a loud noise, we are stumped!
Old 06-20-2011, 12:07 PM
  #10  
AudiWorld Member
Thread Starter
 
mattsimis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Wellington, New Zealand
Posts: 234
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Solved:
Was the largest nut on the subframe on the left side, had slipped slightly after they put the subframe back. Tightened up and perfect again!


Quick Reply: After gearbox swap - front end creaking like old boat!



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:28 PM.