PaulW

Okay, I've missed it all....but here's yours:

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/42591/img_0725.jpg">

And here's where mine are set at:

<img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/22012/dsc03731.jpg">

It appears mine have about 25 threads below the adjustment nut and yours is about 40 threads.

So if you compress them more like shown in your picture (run the adjustment nut up closer to the fender).....does it raise or lower the ride height?

For some reason, I always thought if you lowered the adjustment nut, it would raise the car.....

I can see why the ride would be terrible....I'll take a picture of mine with the weight on them today and post.

pw

PaulW

Before they went in:

<img src="http://www.audipages.com/Tech_Articles/susp_whls_brake_steer/hr13.JPG">

<img src="http://www.audipages.com/Tech_Articles/susp_whls_brake_steer/hr14.JPG">

<img src="http://www.audipages.com/Tech_Articles/susp_whls_brake_steer/hr15.JPG">

skiracer

<center><img src="http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/24433/hr_front_installed.jpg"></center><p>Here is a picture of my front H&amp;Rs installed with vehicle weight on them. Note that NONE of the coils are touching! I would seriously consider sending these two photos to H&amp;R and asking them what is up. I would suspect that the springs supplied to you and possibly other newer purchasers are not the correct springs for the application.

skiracer

that changing the ride height within the range of stroke of the damper SHOULDN'T change the compression of the spring to any significant degree. The comperssion of the spring is a function of the weight on the spring, not the ride height (except for the slight weight transfer raising and lowering one end might induce). The photo of Kein's installed H&amp;Rs with the coils compressed to touching is an indication of either the incorrect initial spring rate or dampers with too-short stroke. In either case, I believe that the new H&amp;Rs are not correctly fitted for the vehicle.

obLu

H&amp;R likes to keep some tension on progressive rate springs when they're at full droop (car raised and wheel hanging) so that they don't pop off the seat. So the tension coils will touch under load, a "tender" spring.

The coilovers on my B6 A4 and all my BMW's were this way. None of them were linear rate springs.

skiracer

completely expanding. Yes, you want to keep some tension on the spring at full droop for several reasons, but that tension should NOT exceed the load that the vehicle weight will put on the spring (I.E. the spring should compress when the weight of the vehicle is placed on it). Therefore, even with a progressive spring, the amount of compression of the spring with a static load (weight of vehicle) should be the same regardless of the ride height (caveats- you are not at either end of travel of the damper and there is no significant weight shift caused by changing the ride height).

kevinr

Raises the car. Which in theory I think is the way it is suppose to work. If I placed the spring seats to the area where yours is set at the front would sit WAY to low. Right?

PaulW

I don't think way low, just lower.....you have definite problems!

TerminA8r

Since the springs are more compressed(loaded). On the otherhand, lowering the lower spring seat,(to a certain point),lowers the car and softens the ride, again because the springs are not as compressed(loaded). I'm sure there is a optimum setting that is somewhat "soft" and not too low.

kevinr

You are right in both respects. I've been all over the adjustment range. That may explain the pain I have in my lower back.