Control Head issue
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Control Head issue
Third issue I think is simple;
Part No SW: 4E0 910 769 P HW: 4E0 035 729
Component: Interfacebox H43 5570
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 343JR037523672
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 39794BC170880189C8-806C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 609 A
Component: Bedienteil MMI H42 0020
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 318JQ037505705
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 7416.10.030000000000010024ÿ
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010024ÿ
2 Faults Found:
02084 - Component Protection
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 83
Mileage: 213948 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:00:10
00003 - Control Module
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 114
Mileage: 215155 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.01.08
Time: 17:15:40
Does that just mean a compnent has been replaced and Audi need to accept it in to the car and nobody else can do it? Other than the keyless entry, everything on the car works as expected including hte amp and all sound and MMi so isn't causing me a problem.
There is also this error;
Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 P HW: 4E0 035 223 A
Component: DSP-Amp.-High H13 0460
Revision: PROD_01 Serial number: 00000000494226
Coding: 0000013
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2A5B648D852EBA11B1-807E
1 Fault Found:
02084 - Component Protection
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 94
Mileage: 214270 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.12.28
Time: 12:05:24
So I'm guessing they both point at a replacement amp that is coded correctly for my car but can't be cahnged or modified because of the component protection but hoping OK to just leave alone?
Part No SW: 4E0 910 769 P HW: 4E0 035 729
Component: Interfacebox H43 5570
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 343JR037523672
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 39794BC170880189C8-806C
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 609 A
Component: Bedienteil MMI H42 0020
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 318JQ037505705
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 7416.10.030000000000010024ÿ
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010024ÿ
2 Faults Found:
02084 - Component Protection
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 83
Mileage: 213948 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2003.10.08
Time: 00:00:10
00003 - Control Module
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 114
Mileage: 215155 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2019.01.08
Time: 17:15:40
Does that just mean a compnent has been replaced and Audi need to accept it in to the car and nobody else can do it? Other than the keyless entry, everything on the car works as expected including hte amp and all sound and MMi so isn't causing me a problem.
There is also this error;
Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 P HW: 4E0 035 223 A
Component: DSP-Amp.-High H13 0460
Revision: PROD_01 Serial number: 00000000494226
Coding: 0000013
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2A5B648D852EBA11B1-807E
1 Fault Found:
02084 - Component Protection
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 94
Mileage: 214270 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.12.28
Time: 12:05:24
So I'm guessing they both point at a replacement amp that is coded correctly for my car but can't be cahnged or modified because of the component protection but hoping OK to just leave alone?
Last edited by TrevorAustin; 01-09-2019 at 01:26 AM.
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1) Some funny dates there; one going back to 2003! Would suggest you try to clear all the faults first and see what's left.
2) Are you saying you've replaced the Bose amp or that someone else has? Won't work without Audi or authorised dealer clearing the CP.
Julian
2) Are you saying you've replaced the Bose amp or that someone else has? Won't work without Audi or authorised dealer clearing the CP.
Julian
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Component protection is an anti theft tool to prevent parts from being stolen and installed in other vehicles. Audi has to remove the component protection as the part is tied to a VIN number. I have the same issue for my drivers seat. It works, but memory and massage do not till I get that removed. My parts were replaced by Audi 10 years ago, and they never programmed it...
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First thing I did was clear all faults individually from the modules, there was about 10 years worth. These ones I've posted are what's left after my first fixes still left this lot.
Component protection is an anti theft tool to prevent parts from being stolen and installed in other vehicles. Audi has to remove the component protection as the part is tied to a VIN number. I have the same issue for my drivers seat. It works, but memory and massage do not till I get that removed. My parts were replaced by Audi 10 years ago, and they never programmed it...
Not that much left to do now other than there seems to be an oil leak bottom right, maybe oil pan gasket looking at it this morning, but no drop in level, and it just smears along the undwrtray, doesn't drop.and random clear water pours out at times, like wheen I was under it today working and soaked me, but it isn't coolant, no mistaking that taste, and the same with washer fluid, must be trapped somewhere or a drain has cleared as it was tasteless.
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Address 47: Sound System Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 P HW: 4E0 035 223 A
Component: DSP-Amp.-High H13 0460
Revision: PROD_01 Serial number: 00000000494226
Coding: 0000013
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2A5B648D852EBA11B1-807E
1 Fault Found:
02084 - Component Protection
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 94
Mileage: 214270 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2018.12.28
Time: 12:05:24
CP messages that I've seen are normally either 2095 codes, which all seem to be related to temporary bus / connection issues or 2084 codes where the following line is almost 'empty'.
I thought all 2084 codes were 'permanent' and they typically cause the Bose to play left side only. You don't seem to suffer that and your 2084 code has a line below that refers to incorrect settings!
I think it's possible you have an error in the Control Head [aka Interfacebox], possibly in the Gateway List. Have you checked the Gateway List with VCDS and checked that the 'tick marks' correspond to the ECUs you have in the car? [That shouild be easy to check as your VCDS listing will show all the ECUs it can find].
Julian
BTW; note too that this is predominantly a US/Canada forum but you're clearly in Europe/UK [as I am], as you have a Euro MMI version and the Euro version of the Bose Amp. It's always useful to readers to indicate where you're from and what specific car you have [they don't have many A8 diesels out there ].
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I've just been looking at my notes regarding CP messages for Bose amps. I've never seen one like this before!
CP messages that I've seen are normally either 2095 codes, which all seem to be related to temporary bus / connection issues or 2084 codes where the following line is almost 'empty'.
I thought all 2084 codes were 'permanent' and they typically cause the Bose to play left side only. You don't seem to suffer that and your 2084 code has a line below that refers to incorrect settings!
I think it's possible you have an error in the Control Head [aka Interfacebox], possibly in the Gateway List. Have you checked the Gateway List with VCDS and checked that the 'tick marks' correspond to the ECUs you have in the car? [That shouild be easy to check as your VCDS listing will show all the ECUs it can find].
Julian
BTW; note too that this is predominantly a US/Canada forum but you're clearly in Europe/UK [as I am], as you have a Euro MMI version and the Euro version of the Bose Amp. It's always useful to readers to indicate where you're from and what specific car you have [they don't have many A8 diesels out there ].
CP messages that I've seen are normally either 2095 codes, which all seem to be related to temporary bus / connection issues or 2084 codes where the following line is almost 'empty'.
I thought all 2084 codes were 'permanent' and they typically cause the Bose to play left side only. You don't seem to suffer that and your 2084 code has a line below that refers to incorrect settings!
I think it's possible you have an error in the Control Head [aka Interfacebox], possibly in the Gateway List. Have you checked the Gateway List with VCDS and checked that the 'tick marks' correspond to the ECUs you have in the car? [That shouild be easy to check as your VCDS listing will show all the ECUs it can find].
Julian
BTW; note too that this is predominantly a US/Canada forum but you're clearly in Europe/UK [as I am], as you have a Euro MMI version and the Euro version of the Bose Amp. It's always useful to readers to indicate where you're from and what specific car you have [they don't have many A8 diesels out there ].
And you are quite correct, English car and a diesel.
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I would just check that it can't be cleared simply - I don't like messy Error codes that aren't real faults.
I assume you have a VCDS; I'd have a quick look at the Gateway list to see that all is well.
The task is simple;
- use VCDS to open Module 19 - Can Gateway
- Click 'Installation List' [see attached Screenshot]
- Check that all the boxes are ticked for the devices in your car, particularly the Bose Amp.
- If you modify any ticks, click Save
- Exit VCDS cleanly
- Restart MMI using three button push
Julian
I assume you have a VCDS; I'd have a quick look at the Gateway list to see that all is well.
The task is simple;
- use VCDS to open Module 19 - Can Gateway
- Click 'Installation List' [see attached Screenshot]
- Check that all the boxes are ticked for the devices in your car, particularly the Bose Amp.
- If you modify any ticks, click Save
- Exit VCDS cleanly
- Restart MMI using three button push
Julian
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I would just check that it can't be cleared simply - I don't like messy Error codes that aren't real faults.
I assume you have a VCDS; I'd have a quick look at the Gateway list to see that all is well.
The task is simple;
- use VCDS to open Module 19 - Can Gateway
- Click 'Installation List' [see attached Screenshot]
- Check that all the boxes are ticked for the devices in your car, particularly the Bose Amp.
- If you modify any ticks, click Save
- Exit VCDS cleanly
- Restart MMI using three button push
Julian
I assume you have a VCDS; I'd have a quick look at the Gateway list to see that all is well.
The task is simple;
- use VCDS to open Module 19 - Can Gateway
- Click 'Installation List' [see attached Screenshot]
- Check that all the boxes are ticked for the devices in your car, particularly the Bose Amp.
- If you modify any ticks, click Save
- Exit VCDS cleanly
- Restart MMI using three button push
Julian
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