I think I finally sorted out everything one needs to do the Backup Camera Retrofit.
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Keep in mind this is on an A8 that already has all the parking sensors. Not sure what to do for those without other then to retrofit that system as well.
I will update this post as I go along with this project with things I find etc. Right now at this post is purely in theory mode and based on collections of information I've found on the web in many different places that I've compiled into this one location. Result will vary input and commets are welcome.
I wont start with actual install proceedures as I will provide those once the project is fully underway.
Right now I am in parts and wiring aquire mode. (note I haven't even taken delivery of my A8 yet, that will happen this afternoon)
I am going to be doing this work on a 2006 A8L
The following parts information is from TDIAvant on Audiforums:
Parts Required
Can gateway 4L0 907 468
<i>This a newer can gateway that knows about the backup camera system.</i>
Reversing Camera 4E0 980 551
Securing arm for camera 4E0 980 553B
Seal for Camera 4E0 980 555
Wiring harness (Try Kufatec, or make your own)
Flat contact housing for connecting to the control module 4E0 972 144
Flat contact housing for connecting to the power lead of the camera 1J0 973 119
Camera Control unit 4E0 910 441
<i>This will be the central hub where everything comes together.</i>
FAKRA Cables x2 (Kufatec)
Boot lid switch 4E0 827 565 B
Guide piece right hand side 4E0 971 446C
Grommet rear lid right 4E0 971 876 C
Grip Rail painted (This depends on the year of your car) for the single grill face lift
model 4E0 827 576 F GRU
Gasket for grip rail 4E0 827 594 A and 4E0 827 599 A
FBAS Part Number: 4E0 035 729 A
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In addition those with out the TV system will need one more rather pricy item called a MMI Display Interface w/FBAS Video Input. From what I read this is a critical piece as opens the door for the MMI system to have video inputs. Those who already have the car equipped with a TV tuner system will already have this part.
TV tuner option Digital or Analog
Digital:
4E0 910 148 B
<img src="http://images42.fotki.com/v1377/photos/6/673374/7044228/digitalTV-vi.jpg">
<img src="http://images42.fotki.com/v1364/photos/6/673374/7044228/digitalTV2-vi.jpg">
Analog:
4E0 919 146 OR 146A
<img src="http://images48.fotki.com/v1410/photos/6/673374/7044228/tvTuner-vi.jpg">
Note from what I can tell the TV tuner piece is not really required to do the backup camera, only the FBAS MMI Interface.
<img src="http://images42.fotki.com/v1364/photos/6/673374/7044228/FASB-vi.jpg">
<img src="http://images44.fotki.com/v1418/photos/6/673374/7044228/fasb3-vi.jpg">
<img src="http://images48.fotki.com/v1410/photos/6/673374/7044228/fasb3-vi.jpg">
Without the backup camera in the equation one could connect the TV tuner directly with the FBAS MMI Interface. This would give you TV capabilities and auxilary input capabilities.
It required not only putting the device on the MOST ring it will also require several standard wire and one coax connection as well.
=========================
Back to doing all of this with the backup camera. When the Camera control unit is in the equation (4E0 910 441) this will serve up as the central hub for all video inputs in the car. This controller is very much like a video receiver is for home theaters. It makes sense as when you put the car in reverse or turn on the parking sensors this will automatically switch video inputs to the camera. In the photo below you'll see that the camera control unit has 3 coax inputs going to it. The green line goes to the FBAS module, one is for the TV Tuner and other AV devices, and the last is for the backup camera.
<img src="http://images43.fotki.com/v1368/photos/6/673374/7044228/tnretrocameraconnettorifr4-vi.jpg">
<img src="http://images45.fotki.com/v1422/photos/6/673374/7044228/cameramodule2-vi.jpg">
AV/TV tuner--> Backup Camera Module
Backup Camera --> Backup Camera Module
FBAS Module <--- Backup Camera Module
MP3 CD changer for those that want to know:
4E0 057 110 C --CD Changer that plays MP3's
4E0 057 111 F --CD Changer that cannot play MP3's
4E0 910 111 E --CD Changer that cannot play MP3's
I will update this post as I go along with this project with things I find etc. Right now at this post is purely in theory mode and based on collections of information I've found on the web in many different places that I've compiled into this one location. Result will vary input and commets are welcome.
I wont start with actual install proceedures as I will provide those once the project is fully underway.
Right now I am in parts and wiring aquire mode. (note I haven't even taken delivery of my A8 yet, that will happen this afternoon)
I am going to be doing this work on a 2006 A8L
The following parts information is from TDIAvant on Audiforums:
Parts Required
Can gateway 4L0 907 468
<i>This a newer can gateway that knows about the backup camera system.</i>
Reversing Camera 4E0 980 551
Securing arm for camera 4E0 980 553B
Seal for Camera 4E0 980 555
Wiring harness (Try Kufatec, or make your own)
Flat contact housing for connecting to the control module 4E0 972 144
Flat contact housing for connecting to the power lead of the camera 1J0 973 119
Camera Control unit 4E0 910 441
<i>This will be the central hub where everything comes together.</i>
FAKRA Cables x2 (Kufatec)
Boot lid switch 4E0 827 565 B
Guide piece right hand side 4E0 971 446C
Grommet rear lid right 4E0 971 876 C
Grip Rail painted (This depends on the year of your car) for the single grill face lift
model 4E0 827 576 F GRU
Gasket for grip rail 4E0 827 594 A and 4E0 827 599 A
FBAS Part Number: 4E0 035 729 A
======================
In addition those with out the TV system will need one more rather pricy item called a MMI Display Interface w/FBAS Video Input. From what I read this is a critical piece as opens the door for the MMI system to have video inputs. Those who already have the car equipped with a TV tuner system will already have this part.
TV tuner option Digital or Analog
Digital:
4E0 910 148 B
<img src="http://images42.fotki.com/v1377/photos/6/673374/7044228/digitalTV-vi.jpg">
<img src="http://images42.fotki.com/v1364/photos/6/673374/7044228/digitalTV2-vi.jpg">
Analog:
4E0 919 146 OR 146A
<img src="http://images48.fotki.com/v1410/photos/6/673374/7044228/tvTuner-vi.jpg">
Note from what I can tell the TV tuner piece is not really required to do the backup camera, only the FBAS MMI Interface.
<img src="http://images42.fotki.com/v1364/photos/6/673374/7044228/FASB-vi.jpg">
<img src="http://images44.fotki.com/v1418/photos/6/673374/7044228/fasb3-vi.jpg">
<img src="http://images48.fotki.com/v1410/photos/6/673374/7044228/fasb3-vi.jpg">
Without the backup camera in the equation one could connect the TV tuner directly with the FBAS MMI Interface. This would give you TV capabilities and auxilary input capabilities.
It required not only putting the device on the MOST ring it will also require several standard wire and one coax connection as well.
=========================
Back to doing all of this with the backup camera. When the Camera control unit is in the equation (4E0 910 441) this will serve up as the central hub for all video inputs in the car. This controller is very much like a video receiver is for home theaters. It makes sense as when you put the car in reverse or turn on the parking sensors this will automatically switch video inputs to the camera. In the photo below you'll see that the camera control unit has 3 coax inputs going to it. The green line goes to the FBAS module, one is for the TV Tuner and other AV devices, and the last is for the backup camera.
<img src="http://images43.fotki.com/v1368/photos/6/673374/7044228/tnretrocameraconnettorifr4-vi.jpg">
<img src="http://images45.fotki.com/v1422/photos/6/673374/7044228/cameramodule2-vi.jpg">
AV/TV tuner--> Backup Camera Module
Backup Camera --> Backup Camera Module
FBAS Module <--- Backup Camera Module
MP3 CD changer for those that want to know:
4E0 057 110 C --CD Changer that plays MP3's
4E0 057 111 F --CD Changer that cannot play MP3's
4E0 910 111 E --CD Changer that cannot play MP3's
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And then have the 4.2 FSI engine as well. Seems like a lot of work for just a backup camera. The parking sensors work surprisingly well.
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from a junk yard and wrecked Q7 or other A8's this could as little as 3-400 bucks. If you have to buy the components on the aftermarket make it closer to 1500. Audi dealer be ready to bent for probably double that.
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Its over $400 at the dealer...
4L0 907 468 or 4L0 907 468B work. 2008 Q7's and A8's come with 4L0 907 468B
4E0 907 468G would work as well and would be required if you have distance cruise control.
Those of you with distance cruise control that plan this mod be very careful in the parts you buy to keep compatibility with this feature.
4L0 907 468 or 4L0 907 468B work. 2008 Q7's and A8's come with 4L0 907 468B
4E0 907 468G would work as well and would be required if you have distance cruise control.
Those of you with distance cruise control that plan this mod be very careful in the parts you buy to keep compatibility with this feature.
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Hi.
Just doing the research now to retrofit the reversing camera to my 06' A8 (MY2007) and was wondering if you ended up going ahead with this mod.
Sorry to drag up an old thread....
Just doing the research now to retrofit the reversing camera to my 06' A8 (MY2007) and was wondering if you ended up going ahead with this mod.
Sorry to drag up an old thread....
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