MN-A8

Hey everyone. Sorry but this will probably get pretty lengthy so please bare with me. Any help would be great. Decided to scan my car today because the passive entry range has gotten shorter. I found a bit more than I would have hoped... Car is a 2005 A8 Base w/ premium package.

Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 043 A HW: 4E0 820 043 A
Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT 016 0300
Revision: 00000025 Serial number: 00000000046692
Coding: 1052993
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 1B3FEFEBDA69AFC0D59

1 Fault Found:
00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113)
003 - Mechanical Failure
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 30
Mileage: 198890 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.08.06
Time: 17:38:56

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 11.80 V
Temperature: 32.0°C
(no units): 195.0
(no units): 64.0
Temperature: 31.0°C

Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 950 G HW: 4E0 920 950 G
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H47 0200
Revision: D02 Serial number: AUDID3D5000743
Coding: 0016208
Shop #: WSC 02301 444 52373
VCID: 2855C0279B3F745848B

1 Fault Found:
16346 - Control Module - ROM Error
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000011
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 187754 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2013.01.03
Time: 22:39:36

Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 907 181 C
Component: FBS AUDID3 H12 0200
Revision: 02005112 Serial number: AUX3Z0D5743553
Coding: 0410624
Shop #: WSC 02301 444 84882
VCID: D8B530E76BDF84D8B8B

Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX
XXXXXXXXXXX ELV XXXX

1 Fault Found:
01176 - Key
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

Address 38: Roof Electronics Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A HW: 4E0 907 135 A
Component: Dachknoten D3 H05 0090
Serial number: 00000626200061
Coding: 0004078
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1D3BE1F3C47DA1F02BD

2 Faults Found:
02003 - Driver Identification Control Module (J589)
004 - No Signal/Communication
02104 - Light Detection Sensor (G399)
010 - Open or Short to Plus

Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A HW: 4E0 959 801 C
Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM002 0060
Coding: 0028204
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 1E39E6FFC97BBAE8327

1 Fault Found:
02130 - Interior Door Lighting
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit

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00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113)
-My AC doesn't feel quite as cold as my other car but that could be due to age. I did take the cabin filter out and when I turn the car on the flaps move down when I push the button, and then backup when I push it again. After that, it doesn't move at all. Is it done for? Or do I have the ability to clean the servo motor? Cleared code and it came back right away.

16346 - Control Module - ROM Error
-Instument cluster? The cluster works like normal all the time. Cleared code and it came back right away.

01176 - Key
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
-What can I do about this? Can this happen if I have another set of keys from a different car with me?

02003 - Driver Identification Control Module (J589)
004 - No Signal/Communication
-Probably related to the passive entry range? Cleared it and came back.

02104 - Light Detection Sensor (G399)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
-Again, not sure. Cleared it and it came back. My auto-on/headlights are working OK.

02130 - Interior Door Lighting
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
This one is a bit odd. The light bar in the door does not work or respond to changing the ambient lighting. However, it does light up when the door is opened. Is there more than one connection to this light bar?

K9COP

The faults sound 'similar' to me. I'm assuming you've already cleared ALL the codes and re-scanned. Go to the 'applications' page on VCDS and run a 'gateway installed' check, and a 'can bus diagnosis'. Those names are from memory but you'll see them. Sound like it could be something in there to me, i.e. your 'optical loop'.

Also, how is your battery, both in the car and the key? I'm assuming the passive entry is just that, passive, and the key is the active part....

The far more knowledgeable than me guys will chime in on here for you, but those are my first thoughts. Good luck, and keep us posted.!

K9

mishar

00716 - Air recirculation Flap Positioning Motor (V113)
-My AC doesn't feel quite as cold as my other car but that could be due to age. I did take the cabin filter out and when I turn the car on the flaps move down when I push the button, and then backup when I push it again. After that, it doesn't move at all. Is it done for? Or do I have the ability to clean the servo motor? Cleared code and it came back right away.

You can't see that flap, but you can live without it. Alternative is very labor intensive, I believe starting with dashboard out.

16346 - Control Module - ROM Error
-Instument cluster? The cluster works like normal all the time. Cleared code and it came back right away.

I don't know what to do, except do nothing since it works.

01176 - Key
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
-What can I do about this? Can this happen if I have another set of keys from a different car with me?

02003 - Driver Identification Control Module (J589)
004 - No Signal/Communication
-Probably related to the passive entry range? Cleared it and came back.

Have you checked your key battery?

02104 - Light Detection Sensor (G399)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
-Again, not sure. Cleared it and it came back. My auto-on/headlights are working OK.

I believe this one is for auto dimming mirrors. Go to that module and program it without auto dimming mirrors.

02130 - Interior Door Lighting
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
This one is a bit odd. The light bar in the door does not work or respond to changing the ambient lighting. However, it does light up when the door is opened. Is there more than one connection to this light bar?

It is controlled by a door module and it is receiving two signals. One for door opened and one for ambient light. Could be bad contact. I wouldn't bother digging into door for that.

All in all, your car is very healthy. Best is to do nothing.

MN-A8

Thanks. I'll run those other VCDS tests later today. The car battery is still fairly new. I did replace the battery in the key fob to try and correct the passive entry range but it did not work. I also forgot to mention the passive entry button on the drivers door handle does not work. Rear door button on that side works OK.

Mishar - I believe the recirculation flap in question is right by the cabin air filter. It is on the VW Phaetons anyways... After running the output test for HVAC and v113 the flaps do not respond at all. I think the little motor is shot, or needs to be re-adapted if possible. I guess I can live with slightly warmer AC . I'm curious to how much it costs but I'm unable to find a part number on this computer. I'll have to look at ETKA when I get home.

mishar

This may help:

Mister Bally

That looks like a low cost assembly when purchased as a service part. Just thinking about how to access it gives me the heebie-jeebies.

mishar

Yep. They put it first at the assembly line and than build everything else around it.

Mister Bally

That's what I used to say about the steering rack on my long-gone '87 5000CS quattro. R&R'ing that seemed more difficult than removing the transmission to get at the failed throwout bearing.

MN-A8

Well I guess that solves that problem. That motor is way to far in there to even want to think about changing it.

Shark_V8

I got the same code. Maybe hire Raquel and go in Fantastic Voyage style?