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Old 06-07-2017, 12:19 PM
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Having a string of bad luck with my 2007 S8. The latest being the "No Key Identified" message I get when trying to use the push button start. The car starts fine with the key in the ignition and the remote lock/unlock/trunk work fine, but the proximity sensors and door handle lock buttons do not. I never realized how convenient leaving my keys in my pocket was until I had to start using the key again. 1st world problems, I know.

Anyway, I have checked all of the obvious places such as battery voltage, both keyless remotes, new remote batteries and clearing codes using VCDS to no avail. I even disconnected the vehicle battery for 30 minutes to hopefully wake up the module. I am relatively positive my "kessy" is to blame. I have also included three VCDS scans to show before and after clearing codes.



The message I receive when trying to use push button start.

I stripped out the modules with no codes or unrelated codes.

Saturday,06,May,2017,09:06:02:40893
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
Ross-Tech: Home


VIN: WAUPN44E17N015226 License Plate: 20170506
Mileage: 208610km-129624mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 4E (4L0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 0F 11 31 15 16 17 19 1E 28 34 36
37 38 42 46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 61 62 65 67 6C 72 76 77

VIN: WAUPN44E17N015226 Mileage: 208610km-129624miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
11-Engine II -- Status: OK 0000
31-Engine other -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131 L
Component: FBS AUDID3 H10 0190
Revision: 01904910 Serial number: AUX3Z0FD713963
Coding: 0410624
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 58BF97CBEB8CD681F1-800C

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX

5 Faults Found:
00181 - Access/Start Authorization Antenna (in Rear bumper) (R136)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 141
Mileage: 207232 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.04.10
Time: 14:39:50

00182 - Luggage Compartment Access/Start Authorization Antenna (R137)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 141
Mileage: 207232 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.04.10
Time: 14:39:50

00183 - Interior Access/Start Authorization Antenna 1 (R138)
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 141
Mileage: 207232 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.04.10
Time: 14:39:50

00003 - Control Module
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100001
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 141
Mileage: 207232 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.04.10
Time: 14:39:50

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 198
Mileage: 208608 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.05.06
Time: 09:00:24

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 280 A HW: 4E0 907 280 B
Component: ILM Beifahrer H11 0070
Revision: Serial number: 00000000004127
Coding: 0010111
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1E33C1D3C92868B1FB-804A

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 511 A
Component: UGDO HL US H04 0050

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 0253440T188905

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B HW: 4E1 959 802 D
Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM005 0180
Coding: 0032364
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 204FFF2BF35C5E41C9-8074

1 Fault Found:
02126 - Central Locking Button; Exterior Door Handle
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 14
Reset counter: 238
Mileage: 208000 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.04.23
Time: 14:39:44

Tuesday,06,June,2017,17:42:05:40893
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
Ross-Tech: Home


VIN: WAUPN44E17N015226 License Plate: 20170606
Mileage: 209890km-130419mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 4E (4L0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 0F 11 31 15 16 17 19 1E 28 34 36
37 38 42 46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 61 62 65 67 6C 72 76 77

VIN: WAUPN44E17N015226 Mileage: 209890km-130419miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
11-Engine II -- Status: OK 0000
31-Engine other -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 1010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 0010
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 1010
76-Park Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131 L
Component: FBS AUDID3 H10 0190
Revision: 01904910 Serial number: AUX3Z0FD713963
Coding: 0410624
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 58BF97CBEB8CD681F1-800C

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX

4 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 199
Mileage: 208608 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.05.06
Time: 12:07:10

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 199
Mileage: 208608 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.05.06
Time: 12:07:10

01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 16:59:56

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 16:59:56

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4E0-910-279.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 279 Q HW: 4E0 907 279 Q
Component: ILM Fahrer H15 0230
Coding: 0133123
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 3663397341D8C0F103-8062

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E1 910 113 C
Component: Wischer WWS D3 H60 0420
Coding: 00000035
Shop #: WSC 02313

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 A Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0090
Coding: 00139548
Shop #: WSC 02313

1 Fault Found:
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209891 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 16:59:54


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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4L0-910-468.clb
Part No SW: 4L0 910 468 HW: 4L0 907 468
Component: J533__Gateway H06 0040
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 0900B0710980E0
Coding: F5F5DFFF707A0E
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 6CD7DB1B4F144A2125-8038

2 Faults Found:
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209891 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 16:59:53

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209891 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 16:59:53

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Address 38: Roof Electronics Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A HW: 4E0 907 135
Component: Dachknoten D3 H05 0090
Serial number: 00000633900022
Coding: 0003479
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1D31C6DFC42E73A9E2-8048

3 Faults Found:
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 16:59:00

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 16:59:00

00447 - Function Limitation due to Over-Voltage
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 17:31:00


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B HW: 4E1 959 801 D
Component: Türsteuer.FS BRM005 0180
Coding: 0032364
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 204FFF2BF35C5E41C9-8074

1 Fault Found:
01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 17:00:34


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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4E0-910-289.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 D HW: 4E0 907 289 D
Component: Komfortgeraet H08 0020
Revision: 00200008 Serial number: W040701180094
Coding: 0048766
Shop #: WSC 25167 444 84593
VCID: 2A5B1D038560941197-807E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 853
Component: Heckdeckel P27H08 0090

Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 907 719
Component: Neigungssensor H05 0020

2 Faults Found:
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209891 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 16:59:59

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209891 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 16:59:59


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B HW: 4E1 959 802 D
Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM005 0180
Coding: 0032364
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 204FFF2BF35C5E41C9-8074

3 Faults Found:
02116 - Mirror Adjusting Motor
006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100110
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 09:33:30

01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100110
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 09:33:30

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 17:00:00

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A HW: 4E0 959 801 D
Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM005 0180
Coding: 0032364
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1E33C1D3C92868B1FB-804A

2 Faults Found:
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 17:00:00

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389)
004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 4
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 17:00:00


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Tuesday,06,June,2017,18:30:24:40893
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 17.1.3.0 (x64)
Data version: 20170320 DS267.7
Ross-Tech: Home


VIN: WAUPN44E17N015226 License Plate: 20170606-2
Mileage: 209890km-130419mi Repair Order:



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chassis Type: 4E (4L0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 0F 11 31 15 16 17 19 1E 28 34 36
37 38 42 46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 61 62 65 67 6C 72 76 77

VIN: WAUPN44E17N015226 Mileage: 209890km-130419miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
11-Engine II -- Status: OK 0000
31-Engine other -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 909 131 L
Component: FBS AUDID3 H10 0190
Revision: 01904910 Serial number: AUX3Z0FD713963
Coding: 0410624
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 58BF97CBEB8CD681F1-800C

Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: ELV XXXX

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 6
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 17:56:06

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B HW: 4E1 959 802 D
Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM005 0180
Coding: 0032364
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 204FFF2BF35C5E41C9-8074

1 Fault Found:
02116 - Mirror Adjusting Motor
007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100111
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 46
Mileage: 209888 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.06.06
Time: 18:03:24


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Let me know what you think. Thanks!!!
Old 06-07-2017, 03:17 PM
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Default Every time some electrical components failed - read the VCDS readout...

Originally Posted by 3RDGENFRANK

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 198
Mileage: 208608 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.05.06
Time: 09:00:24
Let me know what you think. Thanks!!!
I would look for "Terminal 30" that related to the components that failed - As I understand, without "Terminal 30" nothing connected to that will work. "Terminal 30" consists of Fuses or Relays. So I would start checking all the fuses and relays related to Antenna box, smart authorization, door control box, etc. Don't panic and start replacing good parts and in the process, put some bad parts in and cause more confusions.

Cheers and good luck,

Louis
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See other thread on same subject running in parallel. That is the "advanced course" if you will. Start with basics:

1. replace batteries in your keys.

2. How many keys do you have? Have you tried each one?

3. Do not assume your main battery is okay from a simple voltage check, or the MMI display for that matter. How old is it? More than 4 or 5 years?

4. You included parts of three scans. I want to see module 61 (power mngt module) though, or others with power codes. Module 61 says malfunction, but no codes in any print out found. Please check and report.

My suspicion is yours may be something fairly simple like maybe some dead key batteries, together with a failing main car battery. Door open keyless is one of the first thing the car shuts down (via the the power mngt. module) if it runs low on current. You also have an overcharge code somewhere else BTW, which made me think a battery charger got thrown on it too, another breadcrumb of why I wonder about main battery.
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+1... good thinking. I never thought of that one. The Audi amazing PMS.
Actually, my keys worked perfectly until the battery was completely dead.
Cheers,
Louis

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Thanks for the input! I have two keys and neither work. I replaced the batteries in both and have the same issue. The vehicle battery is a little over 2 years old.

I did delete the power management module from the scan since it has the usual quiescent current codes. The over voltage was from the battery charger that I attach anytime I am working on the car.

I believe that the two of my door handle lock buttons are bad, so sometimes the car doesn't lock and "go to sleep". That's when I get quiescent current codes.

I have had the car not unlock with proximity sensors due to power management. This is different, because since it has stopped working, none of the "advanced key" features have worked.

I will investigate the Terminal 30 at the module once I remove the seat. This will let me know if it is upstream problem from the module.


Here are the Power Management codes.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 C HW: 4E0 915 181 C
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0550
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000028799
Shop #: WSC 02136 444 13623
VCID: 204FFF2BF35C5E41C9-8074

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 000 915 105 DL
Component: von VA0 121109928W
Coding: 303030393135313035444C56413031323131303939323857
Shop #: WSC 02136 444 13623

5 Faults Found:
02274 - Quiescent Current Stage 3
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 7
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 208635 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.05.07
Time: 10:48:04

02272 - Quiescent Current Stage 1
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 26
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 208635 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.05.07
Time: 08:46:15

02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 26
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 208635 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.05.07
Time: 08:46:15

02277 - Quiescent Current Stage 6
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 209293 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.05.20
Time: 16:23:50

00532 - Supply Voltage B+
001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 209293 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.05.20
Time: 16:23:50


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Old 06-08-2017, 07:27 AM
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Hmmm, seems like start going down path of the other thread I mentioned, though your car sees most critical modules still.

Remaining follow ups on first ideas are:
1. really be sure even recently changed main battery is good. Properly charged one though should allow it to function though.
2. How are you charging it exactly? In particular, is the negative wire placed on the big hex bolt that is above the battery? If you don't put it there and apply directly to terminal instead, it fakes out the power mngt system and then car doesn't know state of charge for power mngt. Should still learn charge state as you drive.
Does your push button key remote work to open and lock car, or is that gone too? Can you even set off alarm--to confirm each key is working in some fashion? Trunk function?

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Unlock/lock, and trunk work fine from the remotes. Only the "advanced" features do not work, specifically the proximity door handle sensors, outside door handle lock buttons, and the push button start.

I always charge the battery using the hexagon charging post in the back. In the past, even after the power management had shut down certain modules, the push button start would always work once the car was "woken up" by unlocking using the key fob unlock button.

I have been following the other thread as well and will have to test voltage at the module once I get the seat out.

I found a couple of other kessy threads on other boards where folks have successfully replaced blown mosfets and resistors in the kessy module. I think that will be the next step versus cloning if all of the inputs to the module check out.
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