Tiny Design Issues with the A8 that bug you
#31
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Ahhh, "First World Problems"!
Noticed another one today. To adjust the lumbar support (in front at least), I must do an uncomfortable shrug of one shoulder.
One other is the vertical seam on the rear quarter panel seems to be a design element which I find questionable; it appears that Audi can't make a nice smooth transition from the quarter panel to the bumper. The A6's rump proves otherwise as we all know.
Ooh, I need to photoshop out my seam to see if it looks better or if the vertical line serves some styling purpose.
I wonder if there's some simple way to list all these " Tiny Design Issues" in one post along with whether or not they have been corrected in the D4. Hmmmm...
Noticed another one today. To adjust the lumbar support (in front at least), I must do an uncomfortable shrug of one shoulder.
One other is the vertical seam on the rear quarter panel seems to be a design element which I find questionable; it appears that Audi can't make a nice smooth transition from the quarter panel to the bumper. The A6's rump proves otherwise as we all know.
Ooh, I need to photoshop out my seam to see if it looks better or if the vertical line serves some styling purpose.
I wonder if there's some simple way to list all these " Tiny Design Issues" in one post along with whether or not they have been corrected in the D4. Hmmmm...
#32
AudiWorld Super User
Put a summary together and we'd be happy to confirm/deny the issue on D4.
#33
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FSI engines
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the the inlet coking problems on the FSI's is a pretty big design flaw. Tacitly admitted by Audi with the new S3 engine having a hybrid direct and port injection system. The official line being that it's for improved efficiency.....yea right.
Also the FSI's with the rear mounted timing chains. Improves weight distribution etc, but I've yet to see a maintenance free timing chain set-up from any manufacturer. That thread in the 4.2 V8 engine forum documenting the fix for a broken chain tensioner is an eye opener, and certainly puts the "big job" of timing belt replacement into serious perspective.
Another one to add to the "Step 1. Remove Engine" list.
Also the FSI's with the rear mounted timing chains. Improves weight distribution etc, but I've yet to see a maintenance free timing chain set-up from any manufacturer. That thread in the 4.2 V8 engine forum documenting the fix for a broken chain tensioner is an eye opener, and certainly puts the "big job" of timing belt replacement into serious perspective.
Another one to add to the "Step 1. Remove Engine" list.
#34
Not sure if it's been mentioned, but the the inlet coking problems on the FSI's is a pretty big design flaw. Tacitly admitted by Audi with the new S3 engine having a hybrid direct and port injection system. The official line being that it's for improved efficiency.....yea right.
Also the FSI's with the rear mounted timing chains. Improves weight distribution etc, but I've yet to see a maintenance free timing chain set-up from any manufacturer. That thread in the 4.2 V8 engine forum documenting the fix for a broken chain tensioner is an eye opener, and certainly puts the "big job" of timing belt replacement into serious perspective.
Another one to add to the "Step 1. Remove Engine" list.
Also the FSI's with the rear mounted timing chains. Improves weight distribution etc, but I've yet to see a maintenance free timing chain set-up from any manufacturer. That thread in the 4.2 V8 engine forum documenting the fix for a broken chain tensioner is an eye opener, and certainly puts the "big job" of timing belt replacement into serious perspective.
Another one to add to the "Step 1. Remove Engine" list.
#35
AudiWorld Wiseguy
I don't understand how this problem didn't come up during testing. It's not like Audi is the only company having problems with this either. A large portion of the new generation direct injection engines are having carbon problems. The BMW guys run meth on the turbo cars because it takes care of the carbon and also has an obvious performance benefit. Still though... Who didn't see this problem coming?
As an aside, I believe VW filed a patent for a fix or something or other directly associated with this issue before any FSI engines became available. Seems like they did nothing with it though.
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I am surprised nobody said, every time you turn the heated seats on, it turns the HVAC on as well. Its getting cold in the mornings in NJ and I would just like to turn the heat in the seat on. Instead I just leave everything off(being lazy I guess). I only have a 15-20 min ride to work and I deal with it.
And 2nd every other post/annoyance that everybody else post already.
One more thing that I havent seen a post for...
It do not happen often but sometimes when I stop(stop sign or red light) it makes a air release sound. Like a pressure release valve or something.
And 2nd every other post/annoyance that everybody else post already.
One more thing that I havent seen a post for...
It do not happen often but sometimes when I stop(stop sign or red light) it makes a air release sound. Like a pressure release valve or something.
Last edited by mikesd1980; 09-25-2012 at 05:06 PM.
#37
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All that said (and even more not said), I love this car! She's nearly as fickle as my first girlfriend, but far more stable and less explosive.
Carry on...[/QUOTE]
That's funny stuff right there....
I've only had my '08 for a couple months, but the overhead console lights are such that you have to duck under them to see which button to push -- the led backlit feature isn't easily seen from driver's seat. The bottom plastic plate on the cupholder required novice attention with CrazyGlue. The absence of overhead sunglasses compartment. And now I'm beyond just picky -- as I too love this car and can't understand why it is limited to 126 mph when my '08 A6 4.2 S-Line can top out at 155. Not that I need it everyday, but would like it when I "need" it...
Carry on...[/QUOTE]
That's funny stuff right there....
I've only had my '08 for a couple months, but the overhead console lights are such that you have to duck under them to see which button to push -- the led backlit feature isn't easily seen from driver's seat. The bottom plastic plate on the cupholder required novice attention with CrazyGlue. The absence of overhead sunglasses compartment. And now I'm beyond just picky -- as I too love this car and can't understand why it is limited to 126 mph when my '08 A6 4.2 S-Line can top out at 155. Not that I need it everyday, but would like it when I "need" it...
#39
I've advanced from a forum lurker to a contributor just to add my two cents on this post! Like everyone else, I absolutely love my A8L. So much that these little quirks really shine brightly.
1) The occasional click that comes from the dash area, left of the steering wheel, when some equipment is in use, like a seat heater, cycling on and off.
2) When I turn 'on' the headlights, instead of using 'auto', I am able to turn off the car and get out before the 'headlight on' indicator and chime sounds. I've left on my headlights several times because I am used to 'auto'. Yes, the lights do turn out eventually but I recall the rear lamps staying on.
3) When using Sirius and the radio/MMI is on the 'preset' screen, song/artist information does not show on the MMI screen
4) I have yet to figure out how to turn off the rear a/c completely via the front hvac controls instead of reaching back and pressing the off button on the rear control panel. A necessity when a black/black car sits in 95 degree weather all day and I want max air cooling the front.
5) Lots of steps to adjust seat heating temp. Press button then twist the **** while watching the MMI screen. Don't do it often enough to be natural, like main MMI **** functions.
5) The number of times I've told rear passengers to 'just pull the door handle twice and it will unlock'.
6) Close the trunk via the key fob; roll down windows via the fob (dealer won't even reprogram for me - "Audi won't allow it".
1) The occasional click that comes from the dash area, left of the steering wheel, when some equipment is in use, like a seat heater, cycling on and off.
2) When I turn 'on' the headlights, instead of using 'auto', I am able to turn off the car and get out before the 'headlight on' indicator and chime sounds. I've left on my headlights several times because I am used to 'auto'. Yes, the lights do turn out eventually but I recall the rear lamps staying on.
3) When using Sirius and the radio/MMI is on the 'preset' screen, song/artist information does not show on the MMI screen
4) I have yet to figure out how to turn off the rear a/c completely via the front hvac controls instead of reaching back and pressing the off button on the rear control panel. A necessity when a black/black car sits in 95 degree weather all day and I want max air cooling the front.
5) Lots of steps to adjust seat heating temp. Press button then twist the **** while watching the MMI screen. Don't do it often enough to be natural, like main MMI **** functions.
5) The number of times I've told rear passengers to 'just pull the door handle twice and it will unlock'.
6) Close the trunk via the key fob; roll down windows via the fob (dealer won't even reprogram for me - "Audi won't allow it".
#40
AudiWorld Wiseguy
EPB - Electronic Parking Brake
This needless super over complication of a perfectly good, tried and tested manual system.
So they wanted to save the space required for a conventional hand operated parking brake in the center console for the MMI. Ok fair enough, so what's wrong with a foot operated parking brake?
No....that's far too sensible. Lets fit a system that requires the following:
4 fuses and miles of associated wiring
An ECU that fails
An operating switch that isn't well made so breaks if you pull on it a bit too firmly in frustration.
An electric actuator mounted on each rear caliper. Quite possibly one of the worst thought out locations to mount such a device given the extreme heat, vibration, debris, salt and water it's consequently subjected to, not to mention the increase in unsprung weight. Surprise surprise they fail early too.
When any one of these myriad components fail (and they will) your greeted with an incessant and constant warning beep that won't stop unless you pull all 4 fuses and disable the parking brake system completely.
What an utterly utterly stupid, ridiculous and needless system.
Can you tell I've recently had these problems? Looking at about a grand (from a specialist) to fix a system that as far as I can tell offers zero benefits over a conventional one. Grrrrrrrrr!
So they wanted to save the space required for a conventional hand operated parking brake in the center console for the MMI. Ok fair enough, so what's wrong with a foot operated parking brake?
No....that's far too sensible. Lets fit a system that requires the following:
4 fuses and miles of associated wiring
An ECU that fails
An operating switch that isn't well made so breaks if you pull on it a bit too firmly in frustration.
An electric actuator mounted on each rear caliper. Quite possibly one of the worst thought out locations to mount such a device given the extreme heat, vibration, debris, salt and water it's consequently subjected to, not to mention the increase in unsprung weight. Surprise surprise they fail early too.
When any one of these myriad components fail (and they will) your greeted with an incessant and constant warning beep that won't stop unless you pull all 4 fuses and disable the parking brake system completely.
What an utterly utterly stupid, ridiculous and needless system.
Can you tell I've recently had these problems? Looking at about a grand (from a specialist) to fix a system that as far as I can tell offers zero benefits over a conventional one. Grrrrrrrrr!