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Old 06-03-2024, 08:39 AM
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Default Car was lowered. is this going to be a problem?

Below was the original setting when I purchased the car

Original LF 415.20,
RF 400.20
LR 420.40
RR 407.60

So about a year ago I changed the measurements with VCDS

NEW LF 432.20
RF 417.20
LR 435.00
RR 424.60


The differences between the 2 settings

LF 17mm,
RF 17mm,
LR 14.6mm
RR 17mm

Also used ECS lowering links which was a 1/2 drop.

So today I get a 4 wheel alignment at the Audi dealership they do know about the car being lowered.
before and after snap shot .

I don't know what I'm looking at on this chart .
Can someone offer some advice on this piece.
Am I in good shape or busted? lol
Do I need to make any adjustments?

Car is on Audi S8, OEM 21x9 with 275/35/21 , 34k miles

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It's about what I would expect from a lowered car, you will always get more camber unless you adjust for it.

(disclaimer: I'm on vacation and not really thinking about it)
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Separately, you really want to keep it like that? My practical experience is anything beyond a 10mm VCDS mod noticeably detiorates ride quality. You are also way off the "center" spot of the air shocks for intended design and function. I have a hunch that long term this is not good for eventual wear and tear. I did the minor VCDS drop on my S8 and stopped there. Spacers can give you a buttoned down and more sporty look w/out the ride questions.
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You are also way off the "center" spot of the air shocks for intended design and function.
Can you explain that comment. you just lost me on that .

I for got to mention I do have 12mm spacers on 4 corners.

The differences between the 2 settings


LF 17mm,
RF 17mm,
LR 14.6mm passenger rear do you think I should change this one?
RR 17mm
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Originally Posted by 09S5
You are also way off the "center" spot of the air shocks for intended design and function.
Can you explain that comment. you just lost me on that .

I for got to mention I do have 12mm spacers on 4 corners.

The differences between the 2 settings


LF 17mm,
RF 17mm
LR 14.6mm passenger rear do you think I should change this one?
RR 17mm
FWIW, I use 12mm fronts and 15mm rears. Also use 275's starting from factory wheel offsets (37mm in a 9" rim).

For actual VCDS related setting, I go by the field measurement of each corner, like top of wheel well opening on each side of a given axle. Thus when I am done, car sets level side to side, and whatever rake change I want dialed in by relative differences front to back. What I do NOT do is try to even up all the measurements in VCDS for the four corners. That seems to agree with the math you first included in post. My comment still remains--a lot of drop cumulatively and likely makes ride rougher in a given setting.

Your car, so up to you. I also worry on real world risk of chin hits and parking stops. Less for me, but more for wifey or family if they borrow car. ...it ain't your typical mindless SUV ride height wise even stock. Brother in law recently tore off D3 W12 bumper (his car now) to the tune of several thousand dollars in body shop repairs, and W12 sits another 20mm or so higher and with a less aggressive chin than D4.

Spacers do throw some element of alignment out too--not my real expertise. But in practice my S8 tracks and handles well, wears tires evenly, and dials in very close to spec in an alignment.

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Originally Posted by MP4.2+6.0
FWIW, I use 12mm fronts and 15mm rears. Also use 275's starting from factory wheel offsets (37mm in a 9" rim).

For actual VCDS related setting, I go by the field measurement of each corner, like top of wheel well opening on each side of a given axle. Thus when I am done, car sets level side to side, and whatever rake change I want dialed in by relative differences front to back. What I do NOT do is try to even up all the measurements in VCDS for the four corners. That seems to agree with the math you first included in post. My comment still remains--a lot of drop cumulatively and likely makes ride rougher in a given setting.

Your car, so up to you. I also worry on real world risk of chin hits and parking stops. Less for me, but more for wifey or family if they borrow car. ...it ain't your typical mindless SUV ride height wise even stock. Brother in law recently tore off D3 W12 bumper (his car now) to the tune of several thousand dollars in body shop repairs, and W12 sits another 20mm or so higher and with a less aggressive chin than D4.

Spacers do throw some element of alignment out too--not my real expertise. But in practice my S8 tracks and handles well, wears tires evenly, and dials in very close to spec in an alignment.
I really appreciate your words of wisdom, this has gave me some insight. Thank you for taking time out your schedule and pointing me in the right direction .
knowledge is powerful..
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