RallyAudi

Wow! What does it take to remove the oil pan for this car? I am waiting on a Bentley Manual. I did a search and didn't find much.

AudiSport4000

There are bolts on the underside of the pan that thread into the block. There are a few towards the back that may be difficult to. But I havnt taken the oil pan off with the motor still in the car.

kelbrig1

It's been a while, but I think you also have to remove that lower trans cover thing too

NJRoadFan

To get at all the bolts....The only reasons why I could see someone wanting to drop the pan is to replace a leaking gasket, replace it cause the drain plug threads are stripped.... or the VW favorite, they cracked it hitting a bump because their car was lowered way too much! (I've seen plnety of Mk3 Jetta/Golfs setup with "oil pan assassin" suspensions)

AudiSport4000

I never had dropped a pan with the motor in. I remember there being interference back there but couldnt remember if it was the subframe or what.

Katman

You have to drop the front end of the subframe because you need to undo the 'bracket' the connects the motor to the trans. (All that work to get at a the back few pan bolts.)

I think you can leave the rear subframe bolts in, and the suframe will droop a bit on it's rubber bushings. Enought that you can get the trans bracket bits out..

While you are in there, you can always add one of these!

<img src="http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/images/windage1.jpg">

Also, I think you are supposed to use new bolts when you reinstall the subframe, as I seem to think that they are 'stretch bolts' (like head bolsts), and they have a torquing order too..<ul><li><a href="http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi/windage.htm">Huw's Windage Tray for 10V info</a></li></ul>

NJRoadFan

Thats always a possibility, although your car is pretty clean underneath. I don't think I'll ever do the subframe bushings on my car simply because I don't want to deal with that headache of fixing the nut or bolt extraction.

squidix9

I have solid eccentric subframe mounts and with what I do to the car, I've adjusted the subframe a few times. No problems.

Especially with the compliant bushings and the lack of any real precision, I can't think reusing them is a big deal. Just me though.

RallyAudi

Thanks for the help guys.

CvTech

21 year old cars and dropping subframes makes for scary times. damn.