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Old 07-19-2005, 04:50 AM
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Default Wierd AC behavior. Help!

First, let me say that I refilled the AC last Thursday. It was low causing the compressor to cycle very frequently. I only have a low side guage, so I really don't know what the pressures for the high side look like, but the low side pressure seemed OK after filling and vent temps were nice and cold, temps drop down to about 34.5*F then the compressor kicks out, then raise to about 37*F then it kicks back in.

OK, yesterday was about the hottest day of the year. It was the upper 90s here with heat indexes above 110*F. I was out for lunch and the AC was rockin, vent temps below 40*F even on a #3 blow. Stop at Sonic, eat lunch while it's idling witht he AC on...vent temps are exactly where they should be. Drive on to 7-11. Turn off car go in and grab smokes. Come out...start car...and no AC. Drive to the hsoue (3 blocks) and begin to troubleshoot (in a suit & tie no less). Compressor is not kicking in at all. System was just refilled last week, so it is unlikely it is just totally out of refridgerant. I checked every fuse and relay that had anything to do with AC. I even swapped the AC relay with another one (same rating/kind). No luck. Checkded the flapper valve on the airbox, opening closing slowly. I hear a sucking sound from around the ISV and discover a split in the lower hose. But that shouldn't have anything to do with AC, right? Car is somewhat hard to start due to vacuum leak, and idle hunts once engine is in closed loop. All this is expected behavior given the 1.5" split in the ISV hose. Can't find the problem. At this point I'm hot, sweaty and pissed...I pack up and leave. Just outide my driveay I romp on the gas and rev her up to the redline (or close to it) in frustration & anger...guess what? The AC kicks in. Vent temps plumit downto 50*F rapidly and eventually hit 40*F on the drive back to work. Just for ****s & giggles, I turn off the AC for a second and hit the switch to turn it back on...NO AC AGAIN! But ut worked fine on the drive home and worked fine this morning on the drive to work. WTF? Thoughts? Would a vacuum leak have anything to do with this? Or my recent refill?
Old 07-19-2005, 07:49 AM
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Default my inexperinced but semi educated guess is to check the AC clutch

my rational for this is reving the engine got it to kick in the AC.
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Default I can sympathize...sweating in suits SUCKS!!

Not only does it make you grumpy, but it adds to your dry cleaning bill! BTDT...before I recharged this summer... :-\

Anyway, my first thought when I saw your compressor wasn't kicking on at all was that it was out of juice/R132. If there's no love in there, the compressor won't do jack. But your quirky on/off symptoms have me stumped. I guess it can't hurt to go buy a $15 can of it and try that while you're trouble shooting and see if anything straightens out?

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Default I 2nd the clutch theory..but it may be as simple as a cracked or loose wire

just refilled mine after changing condensor and all was working fine for a while, now the clutch will cycle on run for a short burst and then pop the fuse, I was tracing wires and found it gets pretty brittle and crusty by the compressor area itself. My guess is there might be a crack that is shorting out against some other part of the engine but alas I haven't found it yet. Until then I sweat.
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Default I'd need to read up on the wiring...

It sounds like a loose wire or a relay overheating. I'd also look to see if there is something like a ballast resistor in the circuit for the thermostat... Curious if you measured the PSI on the low side port. Not sure about the Audi, but its easy to measure on my 95 Volvo (Volvo spec is for 25-45 PSI which should be somewhat standard for the newer non Freon systems).
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