MarkW

Trying to find Pre-Purchase Checklist website for an 87 5KTQ Do you know of any?

Prairieman

I own a BMW 633CSi. A message forum for that car has developed exactly that - a comprehensive checklist for the prospective buyer.

what are the weak spots on these cars ?

thanks.

Prairieman

Tom Faust

<ul><li><a href="http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/9715/faq.html">http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/9715/faq.html</a</li></ul>

SteveJ_in_TX

This was posted by "Jimenez" on the alt.autos.audi group back in December, and it has to be the most 'all-encompassing' checklist I have seen:

&lt;&lt;Here's a list of a few things to watch out for on the 1986 Audi 5KTQ:

or the 100,200. Not everything applies it will give you something to start
on before winter arrives

Hood opens and stays open when lifted No fluid leaks on engine or under car
No raw gasoline smell present with engine running and/or shut off
No broken/cracked exhaust manifold or broken exhaust manifold studs,
No exhaust leaks or metallic rattling noise coming from under the car
2 piece exhaust manifold is a plus Turbocharger is both oil and water
cooled, supply/return lines don't leak, no corrosion, similar with oil
cooler Oil pan not touching subframe or within 1/2" of subframe
Engine gets full boost at full throttle without any hesitation/pinging to
red line in 3rd gear Engine fault light does not flash during test.
All under hood sensors/vacuum lines are connected
Under hood hoses are firm but flexible and not cracked or bulging
No blue smoke at exhaust during start up or while shifting gears
Engine stalls or nearly stalls when oil filler cap or dipstick is removed
Engine shuts off immediately when key is shut off, does not diesel
Lifter tapping noise, if present, stops within 10 sec. of cold engine start
No fluttery rattling sound from warm engine between 2200 and 3000 rpm or
hissing sound that goes away when the clutch is depressed
No warbling sound from engine at idle or below +-1300 rpm
After run cooling fan/coolant pump, injector cooling fan functional
Coolant in expansion tank is full to MIN level with either blue or red
coolant, not green or orange all gauges work, engine does not overheat
Engine starts warm/cold within 1 second of cranking and idles smoothly
@ +- 1100 rpm if cold and maintains idle at +- 850 rpm after 1-2 minute
warm-up and does not stall during warm-up or during normal operation
Engine maintains consistent idle rpm when A/C clutch cycles
Engine burns less that a quart of oil in 2500 miles
Seller agrees to pay any expenses incurred to pass current emissions test
No central hydraulic fluid leaks at the steering rack, brake booster, pump,
hoses, accumulator, or reservoir Aluminum body brake booster a plus
Central hydraulic reservoir is full and fluid is green, NOT red/brown in
color Brake fluid reservoir is full, fluid is clear or blue in color, not
black or dark
No grease on inside surface of all four wheels which are not bent and have a
good exterior finish Check all cv joint boots for cracks

More than 10 power assisted engine off pumps of the brake pedal
Smooth clutch operation, no grinding while up shifting or downshifting
through all 5 forward gears Shifter feels positive, crisp
Rear differential lock engages/disengages without issue
Even tire wear, both front and rear, 4 identical tires installed, full size
spare in trunk Tires are free from cuts, scallops, bubbles, nails
Car tracks straight on level road without shudder, hum, growl, grinding,
or unusual rattles at 65 mph
Emergency brake holds car while on hill in neutral, then releases easily
No clicking or popping sounds while making low speed minimum radius
turn in both directions
No whining sound from fuel tank area audible inside car with engine running
Suspension damps immediately without oscillation, upon hitting road
dips car feels firm, stable and predictable at speed on the road
No free play or binding, or, clunking, groaning, squealing, whining sounds
while turning the steering wheel from lock to lock, engine running, car
stopped and while car is moving @10 mph
Car stops straight, smoothly, and quietly while going down hill from 65 mph
in a full panic stop Immediate repeat of test, twice, with moderate
stopping force gives same results
Brake warning light/ABS light does not come on during test
Headlights, tail lights, turn signals, bright lights, windshield
wipers/washers, license plate lights, emergency flashers, back up lights
functional,
Fully functional A/C/heating/defrost system including blower fan at high
speed, air immediately flows from defrost, dash, or, floor vents as expected
Has newer digital climate control system with Nipondesno compressor
A/C transitions smoothly from full hot to full cold and back with no ticking
or unusual smells System uses R-12
All windows defrost quickly in cold/wet weather
Functional electric windows/power door locks, cruise control, odometer
All 4 doors open from the outside/inside, electric seats/memory operable,
electric antenna retracts/extends fully Sound system operable in all modes
Electric sunroof opens and closes in both modes fully without issue
ECU fault code check reads "4444", no other Auto check warning lights on
dash ABS, OXS, etc. Climate control free of fault codes
Auto Check and dash warning lights illuminate prior to engine start, key on
ECU is original and has not been modified Board computer functional
Seat heaters, electric seats, electric mirrors/heaters, cruise control
operable,
dashboard illumination/rheostat works at night

Exterior paint is glossy scratch/nick free and consistent in color, no body
rust, interior, carpet, seats are clean, unfaded, without tears, rips,
holes, etc.
All body panels are in alignment, straight, and body panel clearance is
consistent Locking fuel cap key is same as ignition key
Headliner, sun visors, door panels, interior trim secure without cracks,
tears
No water or mold smell in trunk or cabin No pits, cracks, or water leaks in
windshield, other windows, or mirrors No interior wind noise at 65 mph
Only OEM parts are installed and the car appears to be in totally original
condition and is parked in a garage when you first see it

Both front and rear license plates present, clean, and, straight and from a
southwestern U.S. state Along with VIN # they match the numbers
shown on the current registration certificate
Complete maintenance log with service receipts, owners manual, warranty
manual, 2 volume Bentley Repair Manual, clean Carfax report, spare key with
a current registration card and certificate of title listing seller as the
current registered owner(private party) and a passing emission control
test report less than 21 days old sitting on the front passenger seat
Someone named JPF (or like him) worked on the car since it was new

Find an '86-'88 5KTQ Audi with the above qualities and without the above
faults and its worth top dollar in the right market. Deduct from the asking
price, without mercy, should any of the above faults be present
(I give really hard tests!)

The above list won't tell you exactly what the specific fault is or give you
any information on the expense involved in repairing it, just that
something is wrong and you should watch out for that!&gt;&gt;

Hope that helps!

-Steve Jensen
87 5kcstq

Prairieman

just what I wanted... thanks !