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Old 03-01-2005, 04:12 PM
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the one series looks like a really fat guy sat in it.
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the a3 is full time awd with a torsen center diff. soon it might even get the 60/40 rear bias.
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Default Re: it should handle just fine, I am expecting something like an A4 or something.

I heard the A3 handles like a TT, which would mean it's really good. Personally i HATE RWD, four wheel drive is what all my cars are.
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Default We will not see the hatch in the US

The engine maybe correct as it was just announced. My information was based on the 150HP version that was it up until then...

You still did not address how poor the interior and how ugly the car is on the outside.

Not to mention Audi's quattro, DSG Technolgoy, FSI Technolgy, Interior, design and on and on...


I dont think there is much choice. All BMW has is an engine that can compete with the A3....everything else still pails in comparisson.
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What? A3 uses torsen? I thought it's haldax.
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No, not the A3 and TT. They are fwd in normal condition.
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Default Re: it should handle just fine, I am expecting something like an A4 or something.

TT handles better than an A3 in my opinion (feels stiffer) and has a lower center of gravity.

To settle the debate earlier on in this thread.

The A3 uses the haldex system which isn't as good (apparently) as the system in the A4. It runs FWD until RWD is needed and then splits accordingly.
Old 03-02-2005, 05:32 AM
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Default Please find the following of interrest

<a href="http://www.audiforum.nl/Technique/Quattro/quattro.html">Haldex vs Torsen in practice</a>

<a href="http://www.daniil.dds.nl/skoda/vag-4wd-types.html">All wheel drive rundown</a>

According to both of these articles, Torque is not necessarily transferred all the wheels at all the time. However, the rear driveshaft is in a viscous coupling which does allow 'some' power to reach the rear wheels under normal acceleration. Power is transferred by engaging the clutch and allowing power to reach the rear wheels. So, I was wrong as far as Haldex and permanent all wheel drive.

It is, however, debatable from both of these sites as to which is better.
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Default I agree, and also...

The newer BMWs are getting ugly. With most all wheel drive cars besides maybe Porsche and the Acura RL (I'm sure I'm forgetting a few) are front bias cars. They are based on a front drive platform.

When driving fwd is at a disadvantage when accelerating and cornering. On take off weight is transferred to the rear so that is where the traction is. Awd should compensate and send power to the rear. In corners weight is sent to the outside rear wheel. If you lift the throttle or touch the brakes the car becomes unbalanced causing over steer. Awd should be able to compensate. Coming out of the corner the outside rear wheel still has the most traction and if you step into the throttle the fwd will lose traction causing under steer and lack of traction. Again awd will compensate.


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