T-Grahn

Hmm if u want to spend that kind of cash, the 1,8-2,0t would be alot quicker! we have spend around 20k$ on ours and now its pretty fast, and my friend got a TT 3,2 with a supercharger and its pretty fast but not fast enough! =o)

dmkozak

Are you planning to personally produce 2.0T chips for North America? Just because it has been done in the past does not mean it will be done in the future. In the past Audi did not build in any plans to prevent or detect chips. Now, they have the ability to take steps to make it much more difficult to chip and not be detected.

trebien_again

Yep - sources say that chipping the new 2.0 is proving to be more difficult than the old 1.8T ... not impossible, but more involved. The old 1.8 had a lot of power that could easily be unleashed. The 2.0T is yet to be proven as the same beast.

For instance, $1000 at APR could get you 229 hp and 271 T from the 1.8 setup...

trebien_again

The VR6 is rated at 250HP and 236T, but will also weigh more. On top of that, the 2.0T can have large amounts of torque if tuned correctly.

For the money, a $500 chip can get a 2.0T in the same performance range as the VR6 right now and still cost less than the VR6 vehicle. And as the chips are improved, it could bypass the VR6 performance pretty easily.

Now, yes, the VR6 could be supercharged for a large sum (assuming it would fit). But for that price, I bet the 2.0T could be heavily upgraded with new turbos and larger intercooler, and still be in the same range as the supercharged VR6.

For instance, the current APR Stage III+ kit for the old 1.8T is rated at 340 HP and 320 T for about $5000. Also, keep in mind, that a Stage III+ 2.0T would probably weigh 200+ pounds less than a supercharged VR6, promoting better handling as well.

Who knows how easy the 2.0T will be to modify for larger outputs. But if it acts anything like the 1.8T, then around 250HP and 260T should be easily gained from a $500 chip upgrade, and turbo and intercooler upgrades should lead to 350 HP/340T numbers. That would be the same weight as an STI or EVO, and more power.

One more thing - the tranny. How much power can the 6 sp DSG tranny handle, and how easy is it to reinforce for heavier duty if it needs it? That also may make the 2.0 Quattro manual more attractive.

jprice@CPS

You can already get ABT chips in germany for the 2.0T, or so I hear.